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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 09:38am
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Incorrect! The rules state that a multiple foul could be an Intentional Foul or a Flagrant Foul. Rule 4-19-3 and 4-19-4 states that an Intentional Foul or a Flagrant foul may be personal or technical. Rule 10-6 Penalties Section 6b. says a Multiple Foul can be Intentional or Flagrant.
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For the life of me, I don't know why I'm wasting time with you over such a basic and simple rule that you simply can't understand. You just can't comprehend what you're reading.

Rule 4-19-12--"A MULTIPLE foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit PERSONAL fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time."

PERSONAL!!

Note that they both committed PERSONAL fouls. Either of those PERSONAL fouls could also be an intentional PERSONAL foul or a flagrant PERSONAL foul. Neither one of those fouls can be a technical foul of ANY kind though. If one of them had committed a technical foul, then it couldn't possibly be a multiple foul. And if it ain't a multiple foul, you do NOT use 10-6PENALTY6.

Lah me.......

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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 09:46am
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Sigh.....

For the life of me, I don't know why I'm wasting time with you over such a basic and simple rule that you simply can't understand. You just can't comprehend what you're reading.

Rule 4-19-12--"A MULTIPLE foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit PERSONAL fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time."

PERSONAL!!

Note that they both committed PERSONAL fouls. Either of those PERSONAL fouls could also be an intentional PERSONAL foul or a flagrant PERSONAL foul. Neither one of those fouls can be a technical foul of ANY kind though. If one of them had committed a technical foul, then it couldn't possibly be a multiple foul. And if it ain't a multiple foul, you do NOT use 10-6PENALTY6.

Lah me.......
So lemme get this straight...multiple fouls apply to peronal fouls only?
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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 09:49am
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Sigh.....

For the life of me, I don't know why I'm wasting time with you over such a basic and simple rule that you simply can't understand. You just can't comprehend what you're reading.

Rule 4-19-12--"A MULTIPLE foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit PERSONAL fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time."

PERSONAL!!

Note that they both committed PERSONAL fouls. Either of those PERSONAL fouls could also be an intentional PERSONAL foul or a flagrant PERSONAL foul. Neither one of those fouls can be a technical foul of ANY kind though. If one of them had committed a technical foul, then it couldn't possibly be a multiple foul. And if it ain't a multiple foul, you do NOT use 10-6PENALTY6.

Lah me.......
As far as the penalities goes, please explain to the listening audience the difference between a Flagrant Personal Foul and a Flagrant Technical Foul or one of the multiple fouls being a Flagrant Personal Foul? What is the difference in the penalities?

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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 10:07am
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As far as the penalities goes, please explain to the listening audience the difference between a Flagrant Personal Foul and a Flagrant Technical Foul or one of the multiple fouls being a Flagrant Personal Foul? What is the difference in the penalities?
Throw-in spot.
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Throw-in spot.
and the shooter, if there is one.
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As far as the penalities goes, please explain to the listening audience the difference between a Flagrant Personal Foul and a Flagrant Technical Foul or one of the multiple fouls being a Flagrant Personal Foul? What is the difference in the penalities?
Hey, I know the answers. I've got a better idea. You tell me the difference between a flagrant personal foul and a flagrant technical foul. You tell me also what the right call should be in your post of 8:59am this morning--post #20 of this thread. And you tell me what the call is if one of the multiple fouls called is a flagrant personal foul.

And I'm still waiting to find out if you still insist that a technical foul of any kind can actually be part of a multiple foul under the rules, as you claimed above.

That'll show everybody that you really do know what you're doing. I await your answers.

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Hey, I know the answers. I've got a better idea. You tell me the difference between a flagrant personal foul and a personal technical foul. You tell me also what the right call should be in your post of 8:59am this morning--post #20 of this thread. And you tell me what the call is if one of the multiple fouls called is a flagrant personal foul.

And I'm still waiting to find out if you still insist that a technical foul of any kind can actually be part of a multiple foul under the rules, as you claimed above.

That'll show everybody that you really do know what you're doing. I await your answers.
That's okay, don't answer my question. In fact it's already been answered. Throw-in spot! That's the only difference. Now, do you really want to make a big issue over whether it was a personal or a technical when the only difference is the throw-in spot?

Some of us have better things to do then to quibble over such minor differences. The main thing here, which I got is 2 shots and the ball back, player disqualified. If you want to have a pissing contest over whether we take it out on the baseline or halfcourt. Remember, that's the only difference here. Then I will concede and save you the fluid.

You're still wrong about the part where you don't shoot unless you're in the bonus. Did you think I forgot about that? Oh, and one more thing, I never called a technical foul. I said the next time I will call a technical foul and be done with it. No multiple nothing. Last thing, please try not to take this

PERSONAL!!

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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 10:53am
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That's okay, don't answer my question. In fact it's already been answered. Throw-in spot! That's the only difference. Now, do you really want to make a big issue over whether it was a personal or a technical when the only difference is the throw-in spot?
There is more. Who shoots is also a difference, and you can bet your game fees it will be a big deal to the coaches. Also, don't underestimate the importance of the throwin spot; especially if the flagrant personal happened during an attempt for a layup.
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Some of us have better things to do then to quibble over such minor differences. The main thing here, which I got is 2 shots and the ball back, player disqualified. If you want to have a pissing contest over whether we take it out on the baseline or halfcourt. Remember, that's the only difference here. Then I will concede and save you the fluid.
Again, and only for affect, it's not the only difference; nor is it insignificant.

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Oh, and one more thing, I never called a technical foul. I said the next time I will call a technical foul and be done with it. No multiple nothing.
You're the one who said you had a multiple foul. Did you or did you not call a multiple foul on the situation you posted about?
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I've got a better idea. You tell me the difference between a flagrant personal foul and a personal technical foul.

Is this a trick question?
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 06:53am
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Is this a trick question?
No, brain fart. Went back and changed it.
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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 10:25am
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For the life of me, I don't know why I'm wasting time with you over such a basic and simple rule that you simply can't understand. You just can't comprehend what you're reading.
You might have stopped right there.
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