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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:36pm
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Educate me, please.

Isn't the statement "Clock does not restart until it would in a normal dead ball situation" a clear one? Tell me what I am missing.

BTW, in all other summer league games I have been involved in with this situation, the clock would not have started until it was touched after a miss or touched inbounds after a made free throw.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:40pm
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Educate me, please.

Isn't the statement "Clock does not restart until it would in a normal dead ball situation" a clear one? Tell me what I am missing.

BTW, in all other summer league games I have been involved in with this situation, the clock would not have started until it was touched after a miss or touched inbounds after a made free throw.
The guy got it wrong. Are you going to lose sleep all summer because of that one call? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you lost the game. But you didn't lose because of that one thing. It was a summer league game. Get over it.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:49pm
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No, we did not lose the game. But it does rub me the wrong way when an official flatly refuses to calmly discuss a rule that does not appear to be a judgment call.

Accordingly, I was/am seeking advice from informed and thoughtful referees, which most on this site appear to be, save one OS. Most responses have been a great help, thank you.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:53pm
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No, we did not lose the game. But it does rub me the wrong way when an official flatly refuses to calmly discuss a rule that does not appear to be a judgment call.

Accordingly, I was/am seeking advice from informed and thoughtful referees, which most on this site appear to be, save one OS. Most responses have been a great help, thank you.

Just curious. Is the coaching gig just a summer thing for you or are you also a high school coach in the regular season as well?
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:55pm
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A summer thing only.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 04:16pm
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No, we did not lose the game. But it does rub me the wrong way when an official flatly refuses to calmly discuss a rule that does not appear to be a judgment call.
What else was he going to discuss with you? He told you what the rule was as he saw it. Not much else to discuss. And discussing the rule was not going to likely change his mind if he felt he was right.

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A summer thing only.
That does explain a lot. Do not take that as a rip, you just do not have the same perspective as many coaches do during the summer.

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Old Tue Jul 24, 2007, 03:44pm
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Educate me, please.

Isn't the statement "Clock does not restart until it would in a normal dead ball situation" a clear one? Tell me what I am missing.
Please educate me. You have your answer, now what do you want us to do about it? None of us were there and none of us likely have ever worked that league. Take this up with the TD and see if they it is going to make a difference. This is a summer league. I have almost every summer had a conversation with a coach or player over a confusing rule that would only happen during summer.

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BTW, in all other summer league games I have been involved in with this situation, the clock would not have started until it was touched after a miss or touched inbounds after a made free throw.
Well the problem with summer leagues is they are all different. I bet I have officiated in many different summer leagues as anyone here not one was the same. I am sure this was why the confusion you had with the official and I bet the official had worked in a league that used the rules as he informed you.

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