experience

[mick]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Well, I re-read Jake's post and realized that he specifically mentioned the CCA manual. So after I typed my last post, I went and got my manual. It specifically says that the official is supposed to stop the clock on OOB calls (chart, page 47). And then in the back, where it shows all the signals, it does not have the same note that I mentioned from the rulebook.

So maybe I don't owe Jake an apology, exactly, but I'm not as obviously right as I thought I was.

What's everybody else's take on this? I know that I don't stop the clock in my college games, but this is only my first year of varsity.

Chuck

I am pretty sure "it" is optional.
mick

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

What's everybody else's take on this? I know that I don't stop the clock in my college games, but this is only my first year of varsity.

Chuck

I know NCAA rulebook has the exception listed with the OOB signal.

This is just personal preference, but I think raising the hand to "stop the clock" then pointing looks better.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter


This is just personal preference, but I think raising the hand to "stop the clock" then pointing looks better.

D1 guy on my IAABO board (he does Ivy and Patriot Leagues, plus a lot of A-10) told me not to do it, b/c it makes me look like a "f******g traffic cop".

You say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to.

Chuck

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

I am pretty sure "it" is optional.
mick

I am pretty sure the option is owned by the assignor.

[bigwhistle]

Originally posted by ChuckElias


.......b/c it makes me look like a "f******g traffic cop".



Chuck

Does this mean that we get to play hangman now?

f****ng

your turn

[devdog69]

Originally posted by bigwhistle

Does this mean that we get to play hangman now?

f****ng

your turn

f*r**ng

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by devdog69

f*r**ng

r??? WTF?

[Josh Ovens]

1. 18
2. 2nd year certified; but officiated CYO 4 years prior
3. JV

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by 112448


Chuck -

I just got back from lunch and read both your posts. You sure are right that on BR-145 of the 2002 NCAA Rules book it says "*There is no stop clock signal before an out-of-bounds violation." I guess that emphasizes the point of my original post, which is,

make sure you understand your supervisors expectations. If the Collegiate Commissioners Association manual which,

"...has been adopted by the NCAA Men's Basketball rules committees as the official basketball officials manual for collegiate officiating," says one thing and the NCAA rules book says something that is condratictory (sp?) then an official should find out what his/her supervisor wants.

Please note too, that the CCA Manual to which I was refering is the Men's 3-person manual. I'm not sure if the women's side uses the CCA Manual or if there is a similar book for NCAA women's mechanics. So in all fairness, I should have stated that in my original post.

Thanks Chuck!

Jake [/B]

Guys, there is a CCA Manual for both. The Men's has one and the Women's has one. The Men's says to use stop clock for violations, but it is optional for out of bounds calls. Women's does not want you to use it at all for out of bounds foul. They are both very different. They both have their own mechanics and way of doing things. That is why you do not see D1 officials going back and forth from one to the other.

Peace

[Hoosier]

29
12 years
D1

[dblref]

Dang!!! I thought I was going to be the oldest official posting here but Thomas beat me.

I'm 58
6 years officiating (got a late start, but 23 years of soccer up to D3)
Varsity level (ususally girls)

[donfowler]

1. 46
2. 28 years (in WV, FL, SC, NC)
3. Women's D-II

[Josh Ovens]

Originally posted by Hoosier
29
12 years
D1

HOOSIER:
are u doing d 1 college ?
obviously, if u are, hopefully in 12 years. i can be at the same level when im 29. we both started at age 17, so im interested in talking with u to see how u started your career. id appreciate it. thanks