Subs on an injury

[RefLarry]

A1 has possession of the ball and gets inadvertently poked in the eye. The referee does not call a foul but stops play when it is recognized that A1 is injured. Trainer/coaches do NOT come on the playing floor. Before play resumes players A6 and B6, who were at the table waiting to sub in, are allowed to sub for A2 and B1. Should these subs be allowed? A1 stays in the game.

[Mark Padgett]

There's a timeout. Why wouldn't they be allowed in?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

There's a timeout. Why wouldn't they be allowed in?

Might've been playing NCAA rules. . .

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Might've been playing NCAA rules. . .

What does this mean?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

What does this mean?

Yeah, that was way too vague. Sorry. I was referring to the NCAA rules regarding substitutions during the last minute of regulation or an OT period. There are times when subs aren't allowed, even if the official has stopped the clock. In NCAA-W, it's spelled out even more clearly than on the men's side.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Yeah, that was way too vague. Sorry. I was referring to the NCAA rules regarding substitutions during the last minute of regulation or an OT period. There are times when subs aren't allowed, even if the official has stopped the clock. In NCAA-W, it's spelled out even more clearly than on the men's side.

That's what I thought you were after.

If it was a game under NCAA-M rules the sub would be allowed in. When subs *cannot* enter is spelled out exactly under Rule 3 of both rules sets:

Art. 7. (Men) Substitution shall not be allowed when the game is stopped in the last 59.9 seconds of the second half or any extra period to correct a timing mistake or for an inadvertent whistle.

Art. 7. (Women) Substitutions shall not be allowed when the game is stopped in the last 59.9 seconds of the second half or any extra period for anything other than a timeout, a violation or a foul.

(You been getting your NCAA interpretations from Nevada?)

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

A1 has possession of the ball and gets inadvertently poked in the eye. The referee does not call a foul but stops play when it is recognized that A1 is injured. Trainer/coaches do NOT come on the playing floor. Before play resumes players A6 and B6, who were at the table waiting to sub in, are allowed to sub for A2 and B1. Should these subs be allowed? A1 stays in the game.

Substitutions can be made anytime the clocked is stopped and the ball is dead. It makes no difference why the clock is stopped.

[RefLarry]

Thanks for the replies. The situation happend at an AAU game today in CT. The subs were allowed in. The refs then conferred for a moment. The subs were then removed from the game and the original players put back on the floor.Play resumed. I don't know why the refs did that. I looked in my IAABO rule book and could not find a reason not to allow the subs either.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

I looked in my IAABO rule book and could not find a reason not to allow the subs either.

IAABO has their own set of rules now?

[eyezen]

No they do not.

IAABO prints a bound book that contains amongst IAABO specific material, an official reproduction of the NHFS rules book, an official reproduction of the NFHS case book, and an IAABO Official's Manual for Crews of Two and Three.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by eyezen

No they do not.

IAABO prints a bound book that contains amongst IAABO specific material, an official reproduction of the NHFS rules book, an official reproduction of the NFHS case book, and an IAABO Official's Manual for Crews of Two and Three.

Oh, OK. They don't have their own rules, but they have their very own mechanics.