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[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by eyezen

I had no intentions of trying to give you a personal history lesson, only adding to the discussion.

However to take fours benign words with no intent whatsoever and twist them to make it look like a personal attack on you, that's telling as far as I'm concerned as well.

Well, I have to admit that you didn't try to compare me to Old School in lieu of answering a question. That I certainly do appreciate. As I said yesterday, I have no intention of getting into a flame war in this thread, with you or anyone else.

I was only trying to add to the discussion also. And what is also telling is you didn't try to refute anything that I said.

I still have some questions about IAABO training but I'm trying to get answers from....well, the horse's mouth.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, I have to admit that you didn't try to compare me to Old School in lieu of answering a question. That I certainly do appreciate. As I said yesterday, I have no intention of getting into a flame war in this thread, with you or anyone else.

Nope...that was me.

JR...I tried to answer your questions...directly and honestly. I described the differences in the manuals -- and made very clear that I could not describe differences in the teaching, since I do not have personal knowledge of anything other than IAABO teaching. You said you had the IAABO manual and then asked me to provide explicit examples to differantiate between the two. I could have done that. Instead...I made a joke. That's all it was.

I now see that you have no sense of humor. (Hey...Rut saw it was a joke.) That's OK...I usually do not either. My dry, sardonic wit did not come across in the cold type of the message board. That is actually the distinction I was making between the NFHS mechanics manual and the IAABO mechanics manual. One is cold, black-and-white, dense. The other is full color, modern typography, easy to read. As I said in my original post...those are (mostly) subjective judgments. But I believe they are accurate.

Most of us have no choice in the manuals we use. If you belong to an IAABO board, you get the IAABO manual. If you don't, you get the NFHS manual.

Neither is as good as I would like. I am not a college official, but I have read the NCAA manual and NCAA rules interpretations and advisories. I find them far more lucid and better written than anything from the NFHS or IAABO. Rather than dicker over which high school manual is better, I would prefer that we push the NFHS to try to match the NCAA for clarity.

[BayStateRef]

Thanks to those who showed me how to get these images off my computer:

Here is an example of why I say the IAABO mechanics manual is "better." This is a comparison of the two manuals....just one graphic showing court coverage in rebounding situations.

I say that the IAABO manual is clearer, better shows where each official is supposed to be and what each official is supposed to watch. This is only one graphic. But the entire manual is like this. If you like watching sports on a black and white 12-inch tube....that is fine. I will take the 40-inch high-def plasma. We get the same information....but I find it much easier to digest and understand on the big screen.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Thanks to those who showed me how to get these images off my computer:

Here is an example of why I say the IAABO mechanics manual is "better." This is a comparison of the two manuals....just one graphic showing court coverage in rebounding situations.

I say that the IAABO manual is clearer, better shows where each official is supposed to be and what each official is supposed to watch. This is only one graphic. But the entire manual is like this. If you like watching sports on a black and white 12-inch tube....that is fine. I will take the 40-inch high-def plasma. We get the same information....but I find it much easier to digest and understand on the big screen.

OK, so the IAABO version is prettier...more color, shows the chairs, shows people-like figures. Still, it doesn't provide any more information or the same information in a fundamentally different way....just prettier.


Plus, those ref's are HUGE...shoulder width's approaching 6 feet. WOW!!!

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Plus, those ref's are HUGE...shoulder width's approaching 6 feet. WOW!!!

They actually breed us refs that way in IAABO states - makes it real easy to determine closely guarded.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

OK, so the IAABO version is prettier...more color, shows the chairs, shows people-like figures. Still, it doesn't provide any more information or the same information in a fundamentally different way....just prettier.

Yup.