Carrying a weak partner

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by truerookie

JRut, I'm not upset about anything.

OK....Then why do you care what they call a partner that is not as competent?

Peace

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

OK....Then why do you care what they call a partner that is not as competent?

Peace

I do not believe it proper to label someone in that manner. Especially, when they may not be aware of it.

Is it so hard to say? I worked with an official who is still developing as an official.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I do not believe it proper to label someone in that manner. Especially, when they may not be aware of it.

Is it so hard to say? I worked with an official who is still developing as an official.

I do not have a problem with the label. Labels are just apart of life. I think calling someone a "weak partner" is a lot better than saying they are terrible or "he cannot work." I know we are having this conversation here, but in the real world people are not always as kind. Let us not be so PC that we lose the point that was trying to be made. Whatever you call someone not as experienced the point is that many of us will work with someone that is weaker, not as good, not as experienced, not as competent for a lot of reasons. When we do run into someone like that, how do you handle it? That was all the OP was about.

Peace

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not have a problem with the label. Labels are just apart of life. I think calling someone a "weak partner" is a lot better than saying they are terrible or "he cannot work." I know we are having this conversation here, but in the real world people are not always as kind. Let us not be so PC that we lose the point that was trying to be made. Whatever you call someone not as experienced the point is that many of us will work with someone that is weaker, not as good, not as experienced, not as competent for a lot of reasons. When we do run into someone like that, how do you handle it? That was all the OP was about.

Peace

I got what the OP was seeking initial. My attempt was to point out that sometimes we may have to take into consideration how we label other from our own personal perspective.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I got what the OP was seeking initial. My attempt was to point out that sometimes we may have to take into consideration how we label other from our own personal perspective.

This is where you and I disagree. We are talking about someone's ability; we are not talking about a feature that cannot change. Actually many of us here could and have said a lot worse.

Peace

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is where you and I disagree. We are talking about someone's ability; we are not talking about a feature that cannot change. Actually many of us here could and have said a lot worse.

Peace

Ok. I see you point and the points you have made.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I do not believe it proper to label someone in that manner. Especially, when they may not be aware of it.

Is it so hard to say? I worked with an official who is still developing as an official.

But in most cases the official that is that weak partner, isn't in development they just don't care, that's the point.

Like I said before, you may be working with someone new who is trying, so yes they are "weaker" than you but that isn't the question being asked in this thread. The OP was talking about that partner where all the tricks you'd use with that inexperienced official...communicating every chance you get, being a great partner, leading by example, staying on top of all game management situations...just don't work.

Those partners that frustrate me are the ones who don't care, don't want to improve because they either think they don't need to or don't care because all they want is the cash. Those guys aren't developing.