New AP throw in rule

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Defense now gets the arrow, but the offense still has the ball. It's not unfair.

Yes, I'm re-evaluating my opinion on this; but the stopped-clock theory leaves me some hope.

To allow the arrow to be switched might seem fair except that the defense can play a little differently...they chance getting something out of trying a marginally legal play. They have nothing to lose between a play that might end up in a violation if A gets the throwin but B gets the arrow. By letting the throwin team keep the arrow, the defense will lose something if they violate....the next arrow. Sure, it is not "this" possession, but one more future arrow is worth something.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

To allow the arrow to be switched might seem fair except that the defense can play a little differently...

How? Nobody coaches for this. How are you going to play defense differently? You trying to win the game, you not committing a violation to get the arrow. You need the ball, the arrow not gonna get you jack, but maybe fired at the end of the season.

they chance getting something out of trying a marginally legal play. They have nothing to lose (TRUE) between a play that might end up in a violation if A gets the throwin but B gets the arrow. By letting the throwin team keep the arrow, the defense will lose something if they violate....the next arrow. Sure, it is not "this" possession, but one more future arrow is worth something.

I'm not saying give team B the arrow on the violation. That's motor mouth JR with that ridiculous crap, trying to hyjack my position. After the ball is inbounded following the violation is when the arrow should switch. By not switching it, leaving it with Team A, the next held ball stays with A. That's the problem.

If i commit a violation on a AP throw-in, nobody gains anything. Nobody lost anything. I know I've said this before. If you tack on, lost of AP switch to my violation on the throw-in, which I know I've said this before, carries it's own penality, I just got penalized twice and for what?

Maybe the problem with me here is coaching. I don't think coaches coach for the AP. I could be wrong. Don't know what the hell that's going to get you, but if you want to coach for it, then maybe we need a new rule for something you are trying to do that I'm not aware of.

Maybe we get some coaches to chime in and share if this is something you actually coach for in the game. Maybe just share with me, where the team benefits when you do this because I can't see it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Maybe the problem with me here is coaching.

Naw, JMO, the problem with you is that you don't know or understand basic rules.