New AP throw in rule

[WIRef]

I wonder if we are taking this too far. Wouldn't the second throw-in be considered part of the original AP throw-in because of the kick, and when that throw-in is "legally" completed, the arrow would then change? The first AP throw-in never concluded because of the kicked ball. Not sure what to think of that.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by WIRef

Wouldn't the second throw-in be considered part of the original AP throw-in because of the kick, and when that throw-in is "legally" completed, the arrow would then change?

No, WIRef. Here's what I wrote previously in this thread:

Since the AP throw-in didn't end, the arrow is not switched. The next throw-in is NOT an AP throw-in. It is the result of the kick. Since it's not an AP throw-in, the arrow does not come into play at all. After the kick, there is simply a designated spot throw-in, and the arrow will not change.

That's because the defensive violation carries its own penalty, which does not involve the AP arrow.

Here's what Jurassic wrote:

What is the penalty for a kicked ball?

Answer: a throw-in for the other team.

The AP is a non-factor. Changing the arrow is not part of the kicked-ball penalty.

Here's what BktBallRef wrote:

An AP throw-in occurs after a held ball situation, not after the ball is kicked.

Sensing a theme? The penalty for a kicked ball is a designated spot throw-in. The penalty for a kicked ball is NOT an AP throw-in. The AP throw-in never ended, so the arrow never switched.

[todd66]

I do not believe it can any more clear that that.

Even though I get it now, it's a good thing this is an uncommon situation. I've never had a kicked ball on an AP throw-in.

Curious as to how many times this has happened in games you've officiated??