Touching ball to floor

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by sj

Agreed. The "wanna bet $100" line creates instant dead air. I reserve that only for the summer AAU types. I haven't used it on a real coach yet.

I've had a HS coach bet me his entire year's salary that it's a violation if the jumper is the first person to control the ball after it's touched the floor. I should have gone double-or-nothing with him so I could have bought a burger and a Pepsi with my winnings.

[BillyMac]

Someone mentioned palming or carrying earlier in this thread, which deals with proper NFHS language.

Please help me out. I can't find anything about palming or carrying being a violation in Rule 9 Violations. Is it mentioned somewhere else in the rule book?

I knows that palming or carrying is a violation and has a violation signal, number 20, but where in the rule book is it actually called a violation?

It seems to me that carrying or palming may be a violation of Rule 9-4 Travel, because while the player is palming or carrying, he or she may be traveling with the ball.

Or palming or carrying can be a violation of rule 9-5 Illegal Dribble, because while palming or carrying the ball, the player has stopped one dribble and will start another dribble.

Help???

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Please help me out. I can't find anything about palming or carrying being a violation in Rule 9 Violations. Is it mentioned somewhere else in the rule book?

Rule 4-15-4(b) and case book play 4.15.4SitA.

[BillyMac]

From Jurassic Referee: Rule 4-15-4(b) and case book play 4.15.4SitA.

Thanks Jurassic Referee.

Since this thread, at one point, was about precise rule book language, the point that I was trying to make was that according to Rule 9, palming is not an actual violation, but rather, according to Rule 4, palming ends the dribble, so the actual, precise violation would be, in my opinion, an illegal dribble or a travel.

In any case, when I see it, I'm blowing my whistle, using signal #20, and stating verbally "Carry" or "Palming"