Coach and Player Confrontation

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Old School

My apologies for sending the message I am challenging your opinion. I am trying to steer the discussion in another direction then you are heading, although I do value your opinion and position on this issue. Please don't be offended when I tell you, you are living out of the past. There are a lot of things that happen yesterday that are no longer valid today. For instance, gang violence is wosre today then it was when I was in school.

Everyone is not exposed to Gang violence. It sounds like you buy into the hype the media is feeding you. BTW, kids still fight. I have seen some at some games and no one was shot. And a lot of what people consider a “gang” in some circles would be harmless in other circles. Let us use a little common sense. This discussion is not about gang violence. It is about a kid getting their poor little feelings hurt. What a tragedy.

Originally Posted by Old School

Don't you think you are scretching it a little bit when you say the world is coming to an end if someone calls a kid a name. Can we at least keep the conversation to what's real and not what's hyperbole To your point about the bullies. What you did way back when, might get you killed today, if you think a fight is over after one successful punch. Again, I would like to keep the conversation to the 20th century if you don't mind.

First of all I did not say the world was coming to an end. I simply said there is something wrong with a society that values the feelings of children over the responsibility of the adults that have to take care of them. Do not fool yourself into thinking that every confrontation involves gun play. The VT shooting was not the first shooting at a school and will not be the last. Remember the University of Texas? That did not even take place during my life time.

Originally Posted by Old School

Once again, you are lost in space and appears to be the one with the problem here. You are having the hardest time discussing it. It's okay that you would handle it differently. I also agree with you that coaches should be able to disciplhine there players, to a certain extinct. The problem that I have with you is that you are living out of yesterday. In the here and now, coaches go to the extreme, and so do some parents, and it is that extreme that I am discussing, that you can't seem to get your arm's around. You keep wanting to talk about something else, when there is a very real, a very valid problem out there with adults (coaches) crossing the line too.

It is so funny how you talk about of both sides of your azz. On one hand you try to apologize for disagreeing with me, the next minute you start name calling when the opinion is not what you share. Old School, do whatever the hell you want to. I personally do not care. It is very clear you cannot handle much criticism just by the way you handle things here. If you do not like what I have to say, stop reading my posts. I certainly have stop reading most of your posts.

Originally Posted by Old School

Continue on talking about your point of view and what you think this is all about. Even though it is a different discussion, there is much to learn there too.

This is your moral delemia, it is not mine. I know how I feel about this and know what I am going to do if it happens.

Peace

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Everyone is not exposed to Gang violence. It sounds like you buy into the hype the media is feeding you.

So you think gang violence in America is a hype. That confirms it! You are completely disconnected from society and I got news for you. It is not a hype!

This discussion is not about gang violence. It is about a kid getting their poor little feelings hurt. What a tragedy.

Interesting, but a nice play on words. I like it and agree this discussion is not about gang violence.

First of all I did not say the world was coming to an end. I simply said there is something wrong with a society that values the feelings of children over the responsibility of the adults that have to take care of them.

Nobody is saying this but you. We are trying to address one problem, you know, one problem at a time. One fix at a time. Part of the problem I see with this country is the fact we can't get anything done because of trying to fix too many problems at once. Your attempt to ambush the conversation and make the water more murkly, happens over and over in our gov. and now you know why they can't get anything done.

Old School, do whatever the hell you want to. I personally do not care.

Then why do you keep posting and giving us your take on things. Your position is all players are brats and all coaches are saints. I think that sums up your position here.

It is very clear you cannot handle much criticism just by the way you handle things here.

What is clear is you cannot handle this discussion. You are the one that's complaining the most.

If you do not like what I have to say, stop reading my posts. I certainly have stop reading most of your posts.

Hey, in case you haven't read, this is my tread. Can I at least read the posts in the tread that I started. And quite lying to yourself. You are responding to everything I post now, which means you are reading everything I post. Perhaps you should take your own advise and let it go.

[JRutledge]

It really does not matter what you say about these other issues, because it has nothing to do with the OP. If you do not like the direction of the responses, then you should have never created the thread in the first place. Once again you want to tell the world how you have the authority to do something and you cannot reference one rule to back up your claim. How about this, where is your rules reference?

For all you know the kid might have been a head case or a constant problem with his coach and his parents or parent. You have no idea and just because you think the coach was wrong do not mean that others that are close to the situation would not disagree. Then again you have described nothing the coach did that was abusive. Unless he called the kid a name or threatened him, not sure that is abusive. Then again you think gang violence has something to do with this issue, so I would not be surprised what you call abuse.

Peace