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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 08:24am
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I still have the ball and I am just getting ready to step in and stop the jostling for position when A2 looks up to B3 and nails him in the side with an elbow that disables him for a second.
I put the whistle in my mouth give it a tweet, make sure we do not have any retaliation and head to the table ...?
What do you have?
There are only 2 choices under NFHS rules. An intentional technical foul or a flagrant technical foul. Your choice. NFHS rule 4-19-5(c).

Same call and choices under NCAA rules--NCAA rules 4-26-5&7.

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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 11:30am
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There are only 2 choices under NFHS rules. An intentional technical foul or a flagrant technical foul. Your choice. NFHS rule 4-19-5(c).

Same call and choices under NCAA rules--NCAA rules 4-26-5&7.

Is that right JR? I thought intentional technical was only NCAA mens. For NFHS, you can only have technical or flagrant technical. In NCAA, you could have technical, intentional technical, or flagrant technical.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 11:51am
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For NFHS, you can only have technical or flagrant technical. In NCAA, you could have technical, intentional technical, or flagrant technical.
NFHS - Intentional Technical or Flagrant Technical

NCAA - Same (because there is contact it cannot be a technical by itself)
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 01:22pm
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Originally Posted by All_Heart
NFHS - Intentional Technical or Flagrant Technical

NCAA - Same (because there is contact it cannot be a technical by itself)
Pardon my correction, but...

NCAAM - Same
NCAAW - Flagrant technical is the only choice. (There is no intentional technical in NCAAW.)
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 09:41pm
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Pardon my correction, but...

NCAAM - Same
NCAAW - Flagrant technical is the only choice. (There is no intentional technical in NCAAW.)
While you're correct that NCAA-W doesn't have an intentional technical foul, you can still call a "regular" technical foul in this situation:


Rule 10-7:
Art. 3. (Women) A direct technical foul is also a non-flagrant foul by any
player that involves contact or causes contact with an opponent while the
ball is dead.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 01:35pm
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I go to the table issue the Flagrant Technical Foul, because the player looked right at him and then nailed him,
both free throws were made
Team B scored to tie it and we went to overtime.
Team A came from behind in overtime to win by 5 points 70 - 65,
Team A coach had no problem with the call it was one of those where everyone in the gym saw it happen because it was the only action going on on the floor at the time.

The game had approximately 55 fouls w/two technicals including this one.
5 players fouled out.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 01:37pm
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Is that right JR? I thought intentional technical was only NCAA mens. For NFHS, you can only have technical or flagrant technical. In NCAA, you could have technical, intentional technical, or flagrant technical.
NFHS rule 4-19-3 says "An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul......".

NFHS rule 4-19-4 says "A technical foul is an intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead....."
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 11:03pm
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NFHS rule 4-19-3 says "An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul......".

NFHS rule 4-19-4 says "A technical foul is an intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead....."
Am I right in saying that there is no difference in administration for a technical foul and an intentional technical foul in NFHS, but in NCAA for a technical foul it's 2 shots and POI but an intentional technical foul is 2 shots and ball at division line?

I guess my point earlier was that there really isn't a difference between a technical or intentional technical in NFHS. But I could be wrong here again too.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2007, 11:15pm
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You're right. The only difference is that the only technical you can have for contact is the intentional technical during a dead ball.
But you're right, there's no difference in NFHS in the administration.
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