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Old Fri Apr 27, 2007, 06:12pm
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Ok, then without being overly confrontational and stating that you are wrong, I will disagree with your disagreement...suspensions are public acts undertaken by schools, leagues, etc...that particular kid lost his cool in the locker room at halftime and cussed out his coach - he will probably be officially suspended the next day, but the coach also decides he's done for the night...when someone fouls out and I go to coach and say "We need a sub" and coach says "Don't have one" and I say "What about #12 sitting there" and coach says "He's unavailable" - that's all I need or want to know...I don't get to satand there and say "Yes he is available. He's sitting right there"...that's not the way it works - it's the coach's decision whether he has a kid available...as someone else asked earlier, if that game goes into OT and coach wants to put #12 in - he ain't coming in because he's unavailable...
Don't those two statements contradict each other?

According to you player availability is the coach's decision, not yours, so how can you prevent him from playing when the coach says that he is available?

Sorry, partner, but you can't have it both ways.
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Old Fri Apr 27, 2007, 06:49pm
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Don't those two statements contradict each other?

According to you player availability is the coach's decision, not yours, so how can you prevent him from playing when the coach says that he is available?

Sorry, partner, but you can't have it both ways.
Actually you can have it both ways until there exists a real rule.
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Old Fri Apr 27, 2007, 11:26pm
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Sorry, partner, but you can't have it both ways.

Can too..."Coach, you said that player was unavailable." End of conversation...
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2007, 12:42am
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Actually you can have it both ways until there exists a real rule.
You are wise beyond your years.

Except for that Lions thingy.........

The case play refers to a substitute being "available". The term "available" isn't definitively defined.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2007, 12:51am
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The case play refers to a substitute being "available". The term "available" isn't definitively defined.
Ok, Mr. Clinton.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2007, 07:50am
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You are wise beyond your years.

Except for that Lions thingy.........

The case play refers to a substitute being "available". The term "available" isn't definitively defined.
[off topic]
Available.
That's what this weekend is all about, JR.
It's about the *best available*.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 10:17am
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Ok, but the kid's not coming in later during OT after being "reinstated", right? Once the coach says he's unavailable, he's unavailable for the rest of the game?
What if, due to some school rule, etc., the player has suited up and has been on the bench since the game began, but has a suspension that ends at, say, 8 PM, which is during the game. Is there some way of communicating that in advance to the officials which would be effective in making that player unavailable before 8 PM, but available at or after 8 PM? Or are you not allowed to add to available players once all have been checked in?

Robert
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 10:54am
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What if, due to some school rule, etc., the player has suited up and has been on the bench since the game began, but has a suspension that ends at, say, 8 PM, which is during the game. Is there some way of communicating that in advance to the officials which would be effective in making that player unavailable before 8 PM, but available at or after 8 PM? Or are you not allowed to add to available players once all have been checked in?

Robert
That to me would seem like it would fall under 10-1-2 and 3-2-2.
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