Walton / Nantz's point - 6 fouls

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I know what a flop is and if in case I do see a flop that's totally non-basketball move, then I will take further action. But not all flops are bad flops. Having a rule that states "flopping = T" is good to protect the refs' interest. But I'm sure most of the officials have not called it more than once or twice throughout their career.

Let me ask you this: an offensive player is making a move to the basket and scream or yell "AHHHHHHH" to try to catch the ref's attention (distort an official's mind and let him/her believe that he/she was hitted on the way to the basket). To some, the offensive player is also inducing a foul call. Should you or should you not call a "T" and penalize the offensive player who is (according to NFHS 10-4-7 f) "faking being fouled?"

In reality, all coaches and players want an extra possession or two to their favor. Basketball isn't always just black and white!!!

You're the one who said the player was stupid for listening to me because there was nothing illegal about what he was doing. Now that you've been shown to be wrong, you just dig your heels in. Brilliant!

Nearly every ref of any intelligence will deal with this privately with the player, maybe let the coach in on the secret, and then T afterwards. I've only had to get to a T once, in a YMCA game, when the kid fell backwards and yelled while the ball handler was still 2 feet away from him.

In high school, talking always works.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I know what a flop is and if in case I do see a flop that's totally non-basketball move, then I will take further action.

Wait. You just told us it's not defined so you won't call it.

You must be a troll. Not a good troll. But a troll.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I know what a flop is and if in case I do see a flop that's totally non-basketball move, then I will take further action.

May I recommend.......
Calling the flop

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're the one who said the player was stupid for listening to me because there was nothing illegal about what he was doing. Now that you've been shown to be wrong, you just dig your heels in. Brilliant!

Nearly every ref of any intelligence will deal with this privately with the player, maybe let the coach in on the secret, and then T afterwards. I've only had to get to a T once, in a YMCA game, when the kid fell backwards and yelled while the ball handler was still 2 feet away from him.

In high school, talking always works.

The "T" is for falling backward or yelling?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Do you know what a "flop" is?

I hear that OS's wife calls him that on a pretty regular basis.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

I don't call collegiate and I have great respect for those of you who do, but to a lesser extent you get the same mentality at the HS level...little Johnny needs to play the whole game so he can get a scholarship to Duke, or Kansas, or wherever.

College scouts want to know that little Johnny is a player who can adjust to the officiating and who can play well without doing so illegally.

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Wait. You just told us it's not defined so you won't call it.

You must be a troll. Not a good troll. But a troll.

Thanks for the comment!!!

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're the one who said the player was stupid for listening to me because there was nothing illegal about what he was doing. Now that you've been shown to be wrong, you just dig your heels in. Brilliant!

Nearly every ref of any intelligence will deal with this privately with the player, maybe let the coach in on the secret, and then T afterwards. I've only had to get to a T once, in a YMCA game, when the kid fell backwards and yelled while the ball handler was still 2 feet away from him.

In high school, talking always works.

I agree with talking to the coaches. Talking will probably work. Thanks for your comment too!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

Thanks for the comment!!!

And thanks for your hugely inconsistent trolls posts.