Warning!! Danger!! Annual Off-topic Baseball Thread '07!! Beware!!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Um, no, it was a 390 foot single. Too bad that Boston didn't lose by a run; you could still say "Oh, that's just Manny being Manny".

You know what's funny? Your pitcher throwing a hissy-fit because Lofton was styling, while Manny is doing the same or worse in the same game.

Btw, that was great base running by Manny when he got tagged out at the plate, wasn't it? Probably didn't want to get his pants dirty.....

Let's start a list of team mates & opponents who would have knocked down Manny with either a fist or a baseball if he had been playing prior to 1980

I'll start.... team mates Billy Martin, Pete Rose, opponents Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson

[mick]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Let's start a list of team mates & opponents who would have knocked down Manny with either a fist or a baseball if he had been playing prior to 1980

I'll start.... team mates Billy Martin, Pete Rose, opponents Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson, Ty Cobb

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mick

Quote:

Mick,
He said 1980, not 1880.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Mick,
He said 1980, not 1880.

Did he say before or after ?

[Nevadaref]

True, mick, but he probably didn't mean to go all the way back to JR's time.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Mick,
He said 1980, not 1880.

Oh.

Maybe I missed it...when did they decide 1880 comes after 1980?

[mick]

Saturday, Oct 20
American League
Time	Game	Starters
8:00 PM ET	Cleveland at Boston Home Plate Umpire: Dana DeMuth	Fausto Carmona Curt Schilling

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by mick

Go tribe!

[rainmaker]

Well, it may or may not hold up, but so far tonight, the Sox look pretty good, and Carmona, well, not so much.

[ChuckElias]

Well, Dice-K didn't pitch great, but they were good enough. He never seemed to really dominate, but got them through 5. Westbrook, on the other hand, seemed to actually get better from the 4th-6th innings. He was making the Sox look bad. But Okajima was great in the 6th and 7th. Couldn't get anybody out in the 8th, but he really is a 2-inning guy, max. And Pap was lights-out for two innings when they really needed it. On the other hand, when Westbrook started to struggle (Wedge probably left him in too long), the Indians bullpen just poured gas on the fire.

Pedroia really did have a great night, when Ortiz had a bad one.

Was anybody else laughing out loud at McCarver for carping incessantly about how both teams should've had pitchers warming in the bullpen in the first inning and a half? He kept talking about 'how long are you going to leave them in when they start to struggle', and both starters went at least 5 innings. He can be such a putz sometimes.

7 down. 4 to go.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Let's start a list of team mates & opponents who would have knocked down Manny with either a fist or a baseball if he had been playing prior to 1980

I'll start.... team mates Billy Martin, Pete Rose, opponents Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson

Goose Gossage comes to mind immediately.....

A much shorter list would be who wouldn't knock him down......

[mbyron]

Baseball has less and less tolerance for the "old ways" of handling disputes. The umpires tolerate deliberate HBP less and less, and they're following instructions. The owners have too much money tied up in the marquee players -- who get hit by accident enough as it is -- and it always seems to be they who engage in "stylin'" and deserve to be thrown at.

Since the players can no longer take care of this misbehavior themselves, and since it's not against the rules, expect to see more and more of it. Won't be long before we see some classless schlunk "hit the ATM" after knocking one out (or some similar NFL shenanigans).

I thought Betancourt might plunk Ramirez in game 4 after that dumb way he savored his home run (team still down 4). But Betancourt was too classy: he just got Manny to fly out to end the inning.

Either that or he realized that if he plunked Manny, the batter would end up on 1B and Betancourt would be ejected, neither of which would help the team.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Baseball has less and less tolerance for the "old ways" of handling disputes...

geeze, ya think..?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The umpires tolerate deliberate HBP less and less, and they're following instructions.

I admit I'm new to the whole baseball fan thing. So could you gently tell me what HBP is? I don't care if you feel any empathy, just don't be insulting or sarcastic. Thanks

Originally Posted by mbyron

Won't be long before we see some classless schlunk "hit the ATM" after knocking one out (or some similar NFL shenanigans).

ditto for "hit the ATM".

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I admit I'm new to the whole baseball fan thing. So could you gently tell me what HBP is?

Juulie - it means "hit by pitch". Not to be confused with the rhyming move that signifies a slap from a girlfriend - "HBB".