Ohio State & Georgetown

[Dan_ref]

I thought that was a PC when I saw it live. After watching the replay I knew I was right.

It happens, but Valentine got this call wrong. Otherwise the crew had a great game, but that call might have made a difference.

[lot2]

I haven't seen a replay yet, but that looked like an obvious charge on Oden. That play completely changed the momentum of the game. Georgetown was getting close and that really took the air out of them.

I know I've seen a lot less called for a charge this year, but I just wanted to get some consensus on that call. I'm not one to jump on close calls, but I thought that was pretty clear-cut.

I also found it dubious that Ohio State fans were clamoring for Ted Valentine before the game:
http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/1936260

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lot2

I haven't seen a replay yet, but that looked like an obvious charge on Oden. That play completely changed the momentum of the game. Georgetown was getting close and that really took the air out of them.

I know I've seen a lot less called for a charge this year, but I just wanted to get some consensus on that call. I'm not one to jump on close calls, but I thought that was pretty clear-cut.

I also found it dubious that Ohio State fans were clamoring for Ted Valentine before the game:
http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/1936260

Really? Could you elaborate and enlighten us with your officiating wisdom?
My first question. What in the h3ll is a Hoya?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My first question. What in the h3ll is a Hoya?

No . . . what's on second. Who's on first.

Seriously, though. The word 'hoya' loosely translates from the Greek as 'what.' It comes from the first word of Georgetown's slogan/chant/battle cry of "Hoya Saxa" which means "what rocks."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

No . . . what's on second. Who's on first.

Seriously, though. The word 'hoya' loosely translates from the Greek as 'what.' It comes from the first word of Georgetown's slogan/chant/battle cry of "Hoya Saxa" which means "what rocks."

Almost entirely correct, but not quite precise. Typical of a GW grad.

The Hoya part is actually the Greek exclamation not the interrogative. (BTW the saxa is Latin.) So "Hoya Saxa" would be better translated as "Such rocks!" Truly the focus is not on the word "what" or "such" but rather on the exclamation point, so one could really write just "Rocks!"

Georgetown Prep even has a little exclamation point as a mascot that hops around at games.


There are differing stories on the origin of the cheer.

1. The cheer comes from back in the day when Georgetown had a notable football team and the spectators were extolling the play of the defensive line.

2. The baseball team used to be called the stonewalls and that morphed into the cheer.

3. There is a stone wall that encircles most of the campus and what used to be the location of the athletic field. The spectators used to sit upon this to view the games. This rock wall became associated with the students that entered the campus.

PS In days long gone, students had to pass both Latin and ancient Greek in order to graduate from the school.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Almost entirely correct, but not quite precise. Typical of a GW grad.

The Hoya part is actually the Greek exclamation not the interrogative. (BTW the saxa is Latin.) So "Hoya Saxa" would be better translated as "Such rocks!" Truly the focus is not on the word "what" or "such" but rather on the exclamation point, so one could really write just "Rocks!"

Hey - I just go by the information that Georgetown gives me. Not my fault if most of their students and their spirit department doesn't know the proper meaning of their own cheer/mascot.

http://guhoyas.cstv.com/trads/gu-hoya.html

Georgetown Prep even has a little exclamation point as a mascot that hops around at games.

Wow - as much as I love grammar, I'm glad I didn't get a job there.

There are differing stories on the origin of the cheer.

1. The cheer comes from back in the day when Georgetown had a notable football team and the spectators were extolling the play of the defensive line.

Hmm - sometime around 1789, then?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by lot2

I also found it dubious that Ohio State fans were clamoring for Ted Valentine before the game:
http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/1936260

Hmm - one fan on one internet message board does not "clamoring" make. Even if it did, I doubt that too many OSU fans have the phone numbers of Hank Nichols and the Men's Basketball Committee members.