Serena Williams Heckler (Non-Basketball)

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=Damien]
"Every time I missed a shot or a serve, he would say, 'That's the way to do it,'" she said. "He was calling, 'Foot fault.' He was saying, 'Hit in the net.' ... I mean, who does this? That's so elementary. You don't do this on a professional level." - Serena Williams


It was not like she made these comments up. There were other people who could verify those comments that were made. Damien, you my friend needs CO2 training.

[OHBBREF]

It is sad to see that the stuffy ridgid sport of tennis has fallen to this level.
What is next Golfers asking for people being removed because their cameras shutters are too loud!

If it was RACIAL then he desaerves to be throuw out on his keister (arse)
But if there was nothing racial - grow up it is a harsh world deal with it.

[Damien]

[QUOTE=truerookie]

Originally Posted by Damien

"Every time I missed a shot or a serve, he would say, 'That's the way to do it,'" she said. "He was calling, 'Foot fault.' He was saying, 'Hit in the net.' ... I mean, who does this? That's so elementary. You don't do this on a professional level." - Serena Williams


It was not like she made these comments up. There were other people who could verify those comments that were made. Damien, you my friend needs CO2 training.

No where in my post or the ESPN article does it cite ANYWHERE where ANYONE verified these comments. She's the only one who heard them. Also, like I said, I wasn't commenting on the fact that this guy may or may not have said anything racial, my point was the simple fact that she's complaing that she's getting heckled. She's saying that this doesnt happen in sports, and it does. That was my point.

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[QUOTE=Damien]

Originally Posted by truerookie

No where in my post or the ESPN article does it cite ANYWHERE where ANYONE verified these comments. She's the only one who heard them. Also, like I said, I wasn't commenting on the fact that this guy may or may not have said anything racial, my point was the simple fact that she's complaing that she's getting heckled. She's saying that this doesnt happen in sports, and it does. That was my point.

I understand that. However, there were others around the HECKLER who heard his comments. They evern pointed him out to the administrator. This is why I stated what I stated, as well as, you stated what you stated.

[Damien]

[QUOTE=truerookie]

Originally Posted by Damien

I understand that. However, there were others around the HECKLER who heard his comments. They evern pointed him out to the administrator. This is why I stated what I stated, as well as, you stated what you stated.

Actually if we want to get technical here, the article states: "Fans and security confirmed a man heckled Williams inappropriately, tournament director Adam Barrett said."

No where in this article does it say that this guy actually used racial comments. With the way the media is today, if the guy did use racial comments, you can bet those people who actually heard it would be trying to have their face plastered all over ESPN or Fox Sports or SPEEDtv or NFL Network or Golf Channel or whatever channel they could get their face on. If the guy said anything 'racially offensive' to her, shame on him. Same thing allegedly happened to her father in 2001 where someone "said" something racial that no-one confirmed and now both sisters refuse to play in that tournament because of how the situation was handled, or wasn't handled.

If the guy was just heckling her or tell her he thought she sucked or was lazy or didn't know how to play Tennis, there's not crime in that. Fans in every other sport do that, and I've never seen anyone get the boot for telling an athlete they didn't know how to play (i.e. they suck).

So to Serena, yes - they do do that on a professional level - in every other sport (Basketball, Baseball, Football, NASCAR, Hockey, Soccer...hell I'm sure they even do it in Cycling).

Would you throw a fan out of a game after that person told you that you sucked or you were lazy or didn't know the rules? Probably not. Would you throw a fan out of a game after that person made a racial slur? Probably, but I bet more than one person would have been able to tell you exactly what the fan said.

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[QUOTE=Damien]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Actually if we want to get technical here, the article states: "Fans and security confirmed a man heckled Williams inappropriately, tournament director Adam Barrett said."

No where in this article does it say that this guy actually used racial comments. With the way the media is today, if the guy did use racial comments, you can bet those people who actually heard it would be trying to have their face plastered all over ESPN or Fox Sports or SPEEDtv or NFL Network or Golf Channel or whatever channel they could get their face on. If the guy said anything 'racially offensive' to her, shame on him. Same thing allegedly happened to her father in 2001 where someone "said" something racial that no-one confirmed and now both sisters refuse to play in that tournament because of how the situation was handled, or wasn't handled.

If the guy was just heckling her or tell her he thought she sucked or was lazy or didn't know how to play Tennis, there's not crime in that. Fans in every other sport do that, and I've never seen anyone get the boot for telling an athlete they didn't know how to play (i.e. they suck).

So to Serena, yes - they do do that on a professional level - in every other sport (Basketball, Baseball, Football, NASCAR, Hockey, Soccer...hell I'm sure they even do it in Cycling).

Would you throw a fan out of a game after that person told you that you sucked or you were lazy or didn't know the rules? Probably not. Would you throw a fan out of a game after that person made a racial slur? Probably, but I bet more than one person would have been able to tell you exactly what the fan said.

Why are you constantly defending your position? You view it differently then I do. I'm moving on.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by Damien

No where in my post or the ESPN article does it cite ANYWHERE where ANYONE verified these comments. She's the only one who heard them. Also, like I said, I wasn't commenting on the fact that this guy may or may not have said anything racial, my point was the simple fact that she's complaing that she's getting heckled. She's saying that this doesnt happen in sports, and it does. That was my point.

Actually in the article it does say that they talked to people who said the man used inappropriate comments. But in tennis that could be BOO.

It is Tennis for G^&'s sake - it used to be you weren't alowed on the court if you were not wearing white.
You have to be quiet while a person throws the ball to themselves to hit with an objet the size of a large frying pan!

What is next you won't be able to yell "hey batter batter swing" in knothole?

Grow up little girl the world is a harsh place!
My appologies to Ms. Williams if in any way that comment made you feel uncomfortable

[Old School]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

Grow up little girl the world is a harsh place!
My appologies to Ms. Williams if in any way that comment made you feel uncomfortable

#1.) Serena is not a little girl. #2.) You don't hackle women in there work environment, there's a code. It's kind of a slippery slop to let men have this type of advantage over women. If a women feels insecure about a man hackling her, that could be a big problem for the host.

However, I understand exactly what you mean by it's a harsh world we live in. That be the way it is.....however, there are some people who don't believe the world is harsh when they are on the other side of the insults. Ain't that right BackInTheSaddle or Mr.MTD.

[rainmaker]

Mick or Bob, surely you'll agree that, from this point, this thread can't lead anywhere interesting or worthwhile. Please close it NOW!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Mick or Bob, surely you'll agree that, from this point, this thread can't lead anywhere interesting or worthwhile.

Nope, never happen, Missy.

Heeheeheehee.........

[Damien]

http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/55110.html

'[Winton] was . . . making a player feel uncomfortable, and we have no tolerance for that,'' Barrett said. ``Serena and her camp felt it was racially motivated, so it made it more serious and . . . we err on the side of the player or guest who feels uncomfortable.''

If only Chris Webber knew about this provision when he called that excessive time-out during the '93 NCAA D-I Championship game. All those fans yelling and screaming surely made him feel uncomfortable, they should have reset the clock to err on the side of the player....who was visibly uncomfortable.

"By the time stadium security approached Winton, the match had ended and he was in the hallway. He was questioned, escorted off the grounds by Miami-Dade police and issued a no-trespass warning. Tennis, like other sports, is not immune to heckling. But fans deemed to go too far are kicked out."

Nice of them to at least watch the entire match so he could get the full value of his ticket. FYI: Most fans who are deemed to go to far are kicked out in every sport, I'm not sure if the sport of Tennis knew that.

[bellnier]

Actually if we want to get technical here, the article states: "Fans and security confirmed a man heckled Williams inappropriately, tournament director Adam Barrett said."

How does one heckle appropriately?

I don't watch much tennis so I don't know one Williams sister from the other, but since she claims she heard rude comments from the stands she must not be the one who does all the grunting after every stroke.

I'm on the fence on this one; I don't tolerate fans making comments to players in any sport at the HS level. But Williams is a grown woman in a world where common sense and common courtesy are growing less common by the day. As long as the "fan" wasn't making vulgar or racist comments, I say "get over it" (unless, of course, it says specifically on the contract [ie., admission ticket] that such behavior is punishable by expulsion).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

You don't hackle women in there work environment, there's a code.

Right. It's the Code of Hammurabai. That code says that if you try to hackle wimmen, you're liable to lose your cockle.

Hackles and cockles, alive, alive o!