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[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by etruland

That's not an IW. WE have a timing mistake. Since we must put time back on, put ball back to throw in spot.

Hey Earl. Welcome to the forum!!

I agree that it's technically not an inadvertent whistle. But why does putting time back on the clock mean that we must go back to the original throw-in spot? I don't get the connection between those two things.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Hey Earl. Welcome to the forum!!

I agree that it's technically not an inadvertent whistle. But why does putting time back on the clock mean that we must go back to the original throw-in spot? I don't get the connection between those two things.

Let me try to simplify this whole thing. This is an official's timeout. The official blew the whistle to make a correction. If a team calls a timeout before the throw-in is completed, where is the next throw-in? The ball has not yet achieved any status other than its original position.
On a throw-in, if the ball bounces in the frontcourt, has it attained front court status? No. A player in the backcourt may be the 1st to touch it after it touches the floor in the frontcourt.
The same applies to this situation.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by socalreff

Let me try to simplify this whole thing. This is an official's timeout.

Officials don't get time outs.

"Official's timeout" is announcer-speak.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by socalreff

On a throw-in, if the ball bounces in the frontcourt, has it attained front court status? No. A player in the backcourt may be the 1st to touch it after it touches the floor in the frontcourt.

Yes, it has attained front court status. Take another look at 4-4-2. The rules for backcourt violation and backcourt status are related, but there are key differences.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

Yes, it has attained front court status. Take another look at 4-4-2. The rules for backcourt violation and backcourt status are related, but there are key differences.

Mark, I think he has it correct. If the ball and only the ball touches the front court, it does not attain front court status yet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

Mark, I think he has it correct. If the ball and only the ball touches the front court, it does not attain front court status yet.

Just because there's no team control doesn't mean it hasn't attained FC status.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

Mark, I think he has it correct. If the ball and only the ball touches the front court, it does not attain front court status yet.

NFHS 4-4-2:
A ball which is in contact with a player or with the court is in the frontcourt if neither the ball nor the player is touching the backcourt.

Q.E.D.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

Mark, I think he has it correct. If the ball and only the ball touches the front court, it does not attain front court status yet.

See also 9-9-2.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

See also 9-9-2.

How can there be BC, when there's no team control? Which end is the backcourt when neither team has control?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

How can there be BC, when there's no team control? Which end is the backcourt when neither team has control?

Juulie - I was using 9-9-2 to illustrate the fact that the ball doesn't need to be touched in FC/BC to attain such a status. That said, a TEAM has its own FC/BC established whether there is control or not (4-13).