Fiba

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Could you elaborate on this? "Checked?" Does this mean if the ball goes OOB or a timeout is called at, say, 4 in the BC count. The count will start from 4 once the ball is inbounded?

There are no timeouts called during play. That's part of the rule change....in FIBA, you can only call TO by requesting it to the scoretable, and then it will be awarded during the next dead ball.

The second part of your scenario is correct....the count will "resume" at four seconds, and will not "re-start".

[NICK]

Team control also starts as soon as a player out of bounds is ready to inbound the ball.....cheers

[Scrapper1]

Aren't there also some differences in the basket interference rules. I'm pretty sure that at some point, the rule was that once the ball hit the rim, all GT and BI rules were "discontinued" (so to speak). So as long as the shot had already hit the rim, you could go into the cylinder to rebound it, or dunk it, or whatever. Is that still true?

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Aren't there also some differences in the basket interference rules. I'm pretty sure that at some point, the rule was that once the ball hit the rim, all GT and BI rules were "discontinued" (so to speak). So as long as the shot had already hit the rim, you could go into the cylinder to rebound it, or dunk it, or whatever. Is that still true?

There is no cylinder altogether. A passage can be catched and dunked even directly above the basket. When the ball hits the ring on a try, the ball is playable by everybody, unless it is in the basket (that is, some part of it is under ring level inside the basket) when only an offensive player can touch it.

It is of course forbidden to reach through the basket from below and touch the ball; unfortunately, after the ball has touched the ring, this is not BI, but a simple violation. There are rumors that this will be changed back to BI.

Touching the ball when it is completely above ring level after it has hit the backboard is goal tending (it doesn't matter, in this case, the direction of the flight, upward or downward).

[Kostja]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Aren't there also some differences in the basket interference rules. I'm pretty sure that at some point, the rule was that once the ball hit the rim, all GT and BI rules were "discontinued" (so to speak). So as long as the shot had already hit the rim, you could go into the cylinder to rebound it, or dunk it, or whatever. Is that still true?

Yes, because by definition the shot ends as soon as it hits the rim, and GT and BI only apply to shot situations.

[NICK]

There is no "cylinder" above the ring. As soon as the ball touches the ring, or sits on the ring, it is anybodys ball to rebound or tip in. I have seen so many American players hesitant in rebounding or tipping the ball when it is in this cylinder when playing to Fiba rules.....cheers

[Adam]

I think I remember hearing that in international rules, "alley oop" plays are illegal also. Is this true? Does a player who jumps to catch a pass near the rim have to come down before shooting?
Note, this could easily be another bit of misinformation I gleaned from clueless announcers watching Olympic basketball growing up.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think I remember hearing that in international rules, "alley oop" plays are illegal also. Is this true? Does a player who jumps to catch a pass near the rim have to come down before shooting?
Note, this could easily be another bit of misinformation I gleaned from clueless announcers watching Olympic basketball growing up.

For a while, FIBA outlawed the alley-oop - but legalized it about 15 years ago.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

There are no timeouts called during play. That's part of the rule change....in FIBA, you can only call TO by requesting it to the scoretable, and then it will be awarded during the next dead ball.

The second part of your scenario is correct....the count will "resume" at four seconds, and will not "re-start".

When does it restart? When the ball is established in bounds or when the thrower gets the ball for the throwin?

[SmokeEater]

The 8 second count will "restart" once control is established in bounds.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When does it restart? When the ball is established in bounds or when the thrower gets the ball for the throwin?

Good grief, why would the count resume before the ball is inbounded?

Are there any sets of rules where this occurs?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Good grief, why would the count resume before the ball is inbounded?

Are there any sets of rules where this occurs?

Dude, I was just asking.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dude, I was just asking.

You being an experienced, knowledgeable official, I was just surprised that you would even ask that.

People have this idea that FIBA rules is like playing on Mars or something - when in fact, it's still basketball....fouls, travelling, double-dribble - most of the basic, major stuff is the same.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

People have this idea that FIBA rules is like playing on Mars or something -

Not Mars - France.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Not Mars - France.