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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 03:25pm
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Everyone who worked last night worked a 1st and 2nd round game. I expect the same tonight. Expect Kersey, Lusk, Hillary, O'Neill, Corbett and others.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 04:34pm
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Not hating...just facts. Just because Kelley and Falk give this guy a ton of games, he really isn't much better than the averageg official. He can't run, mechanics are horrible, and play calling is suspect. He gets so many games because of his relationship with the supervisors. If he was so good, he would advance further than what he does. The man works over 100 plus games, but crunch time in the tourney, where is he? I don't work the NCAA either, but neither do I have Kelley and Falk in my pocket.

If he was evaluated like everyone else, he would not work as much as he does...that is why the he doesn't advance. It has nothing to do with whether or not he is a nice guy...he is a very nice guy and tells great jokes at camp. However, honestly break down a tape of his and critique objectively and you will see the facts speak for themselves.

Which brings another question: why is it okay and acceptable for veterans to do WHATEVER they want when it comes to mechanics and the like? Are they bigger than the game? I relate this to police officers breaking a law because they feel like they can.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 04:44pm
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Not hating...just facts.

(snipped everything but the facts)
Stupid monkeys.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 05:01pm
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Stupid monkeys.
Kinda amazing what they can do though if you put thousands of them in a room and give 'em all typewriters.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 05:03pm
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Kinda amazing what they can do though if you put thousands of them in a room and give 'em all typewriters.
I was just thinking the same thing like 10 seconds ago.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 06:35pm
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Quick refresher. Earlier this week, the follwing post was made:

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Originally Posted by TriggerMN
I'd be willing to bet my house that Steve Welmer will be working this weekend.
Followed by my response:

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
I will take that bet.
Then, there was a response to Triggers original post which said:

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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
I was going to say the same thing -- I haven't seen him working the NIT and Steve certainly isn't done for the year this early.
To which I said:

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And I'll take this bet too. Can you guys tell me what state you live in just so I have a rough idea of where my potential future vacation homes may be located?
Sooooooooo, in just a couple more hours, I should know if I have a couple new vacation homes.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 12:31pm
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You all can send me the deeds!!
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 02:17pm
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You all can send me the deeds!!
He could have been selected for a regional final. You won't be able to collect on the bet until Sunday night.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 04:52pm
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Well
Well, a regional final has come and gone and Welmer is at home like the rest of us...hum.
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2007, 09:48am
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Welmer's deepest advancements 1998-2007

98 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over UCLA)
99 - 2nd Round (Florida over Weber St.)
00 - Regional Semi (Oklahoma St. over Seton Hall)
01 - 2nd Round (UCLA over Utah St.)
02 - Regional Semi (Maryland over Kentucky)
03 - 2nd Round (Auburn over Wake Forest)
04 - Regional Semi (St. Joseph's over Wake Forest)
05 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over Utah)
06 - 1st Round (Washington over Utah St.)
07 - 1st Round (North Carolina over E. Kentucky)

Regardless of your feelings about his officiating, Welmer was essentially pegged as a Round of 32/Sweet 16 official, but his standing has appeared to slip in the last couple of years.
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2007, 09:58am
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Welmer's deepest advancements 1998-2007

98 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over UCLA)
99 - 2nd Round (Florida over Weber St.)
00 - Regional Semi (Oklahoma St. over Seton Hall)
01 - 2nd Round (UCLA over Utah St.)
02 - Regional Semi (Maryland over Kentucky)
03 - 2nd Round (Auburn over Wake Forest)
04 - Regional Semi (St. Joseph's over Wake Forest)
05 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over Utah)
06 - 1st Round (Washington over Utah St.)
07 - 1st Round (North Carolina over E. Kentucky)
I'm gonna bet there are people reading this site and posting to this thread that would trade just about anything to say they have worked the Division 1 tournament ten straight years. I GUARANTEE you would all take even 25% of his schedule.

Anyone this worried about Steve Welmer is focusing on the wrong thing.
They should really be focusing on their significant case of cranial rectitus!!

Move on.
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2007, 10:39am
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Oh TRIGGGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! RICHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Where ARE you???
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2007, 11:31am
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I'm gonna bet there are people reading this site and posting to this thread that would trade just about anything to say they have worked the Division 1 tournament ten straight years. I GUARANTEE you would all take even 25% of his schedule.

Anyone this worried about Steve Welmer is focusing on the wrong thing.
They should really be focusing on their significant case of cranial rectitus!!

Move on.
Amen!
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2007, 12:00pm
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I'm gonna bet there are people reading this site and posting to this thread that would trade just about anything to say they have worked the Division 1 tournament ten straight years. I GUARANTEE you would all take even 25% of his schedule.

Anyone this worried about Steve Welmer is focusing on the wrong thing.
They should really be focusing on their significant case of cranial rectitus!!

Move on.
My info was for informational purposes only. Wouldn't we all like Welmer's schedule? Yes.

People were talking about it. I responded with info and an observation that a trained monkey could make looking at that info. You know, official forums sometimes talk about basketball officials. I happen to have the lists of officials for the last 10 years of the tourney, and thought it was relevant to the discussion. Sorry to have offended your sensibilities.
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Even I am ready to end this discussion and that is really saying a lot.
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