Oden Intentional Foul

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Actually, that isn't true. If the player would NOT have grabbed the rim he would have drifted to the other side of the rim and the offensive player would have had an uncontested layup.

It should have been a T.

While I like the idea of a T on this particular play, I disagree that it should have been one.

While we could see from the replay that he may have drifted away from the other players, he doesn't necessarily know that. The fact that there was a foul when he was still in contact with the rim is all I need to know to not call the T for grabbing the rim...if he was close enough to another player to foul them, they were close enough for him to hang onto the rim for safety.....and it wasn't like he held on for a long time.

Still, I think he deliberately held on to the rim for an advantage...but that is not part of the rule.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Still, I think he deliberately held on to the rim for an advantage...but that is not part of the rule.

10-3
A player shall not:
5. Illegally contact the backcoard or ring by:
(a) placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage.

The player wasn't looking to prevent injury, he was looking to the ball, methinks.

[tomegun]

He was moving one way and hanging on the rim stopped his momentum so he could remain in the play. You can easily apply the rule Mick quoted above.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mick

10-3
A player shall not:
5. Illegally contact the backcoard or ring by:
(a) placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage.

The player wasn't looking to prevent injury, he was looking to the ball, methinks.

While the injury prevention question is certainly not conclusive, the rule you now quote is sufficient....I can agree with that.

The only thing I could imagine is that refs didn't see it, they didn't feel an advantage was gained, the personal foul occurred before an advantaged was gained, or that they felt the personal foul sufficiently penalized the situation.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The only thing I could imagine is that refs didn't see it, they didn't feel an advantage was gained, the personal foul occurred before an advantaged was gained, or that they felt the personal foul sufficiently penalized the situation.

Yeah. I can imagine Lead looking at the contact [not the rim] and Center not getting a good look.
There surely was some stuff happening on that play.

But then, by choosing an applicable rule, we were only playing: "What if we had had a great look".