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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:31pm
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In the BTL-MD halftime conversation, Seth Davis excused the lack of an intentional foul call "because it wasn't severe enough to warrant ejection." I expect Packer to not have a clue, but has anyone on-air ever read the rules?
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:41pm
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talk about not calling an intentional. Check the Butler-Maryland game.Last few seconds Butler player gets rebound and moves toward mid court and gets his shirt grabbed and nearly ripped off his back. No call.
There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:43pm
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On that play, the defender actually raked him across the arms before grabbing the jersey. Thus, the non-intentional foul on that one.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:50pm
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Is it me or are we seeing all officials in the tournament more intent on calling the foul in the paint before an entry pass...lots of fouls involving the swim move....but once that entry pass is made and the ball goes up...then they let them rebound.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:52pm
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And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 05:24pm
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And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.
Majerski? Or Majerus?
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 05:47pm
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There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.
MJT, calling a foul a "reach" is the equivalent to calling "offsides" in NFHS football. It's just not done by knowledgable officials.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 07:34pm
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
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I have noticed a lot of what I would call 'extreme boxing out' on FTs. The inside guy actually turns and pushes with both arms. I have seen it with several teams in the past couple of days.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:23pm
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But I dont have a problem with the simple foul. Still if the guy sinks two free throws, the three pointer doesnt mean annthing.
While it is true that he missed the free throw, as well as Xavier losing a 9 point lead with three minutes to go, I don't think this excuses what appeared to be a fairly obvious intentional foul.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:24pm
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
That's great when you're on a coaching forum but this ain't a coaching forum. It is NOT a foul to reach.

I'd say you're basketball coach who should give basketball rules the same respect that you give football rules when you post as a football official. There's ZERO difference.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:33pm
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I suppose. I'll do it just for you BktBallRef.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:34pm
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NEWS FLASH - There's no such thing as over the back either.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:35pm
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Oden's foul was an intentional foul no matter at what level the game was and no matter at what time of the game it happened. I am really disappointed that an intentional foul was not called and I am a Buckeye fan.

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