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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 03:34pm
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Just saw an interesting angle during halftime of the MD/Butler game. Camera angle is from the sideline camera sitting on the floor right behind the C official.

Jamar Butler missed the three point shot and OSU's David Lighty got the offensive rebound. As he tries to put it back up, you can see the C official start to raise a fist and then bring it back down. Xavier's Justin Cage gets the rebound and is fouled by Oden. Shoulda been an intentional in my opinion.

EDIT: It was actually the T that started to raise a fist on the Lighty attempt, not the C. Cahill was Lead on this play I believe, and the big black dude, Les _____ was C. Not sure who T was.

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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:07pm
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EDIT: It was actually the T that started to raise a fist on the Lighty attempt, not the C. Cahill was Lead on this play I believe, and the big black dude, Les _____ was C. Not sure who T was.
I saw that as well. He definitely started to call a foul, but backed off. That won't go over well with the supervisor. Done it myself a time or two. It happens when you get in a hurry.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:31pm
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intentional fouls

talk about not calling an intentional. Check the Butler-Maryland game.Last few seconds Butler player gets rebound and moves toward mid court and gets his shirt grabbed and nearly ripped off his back. No call.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:41pm
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talk about not calling an intentional. Check the Butler-Maryland game.Last few seconds Butler player gets rebound and moves toward mid court and gets his shirt grabbed and nearly ripped off his back. No call.
There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 05:47pm
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There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.
MJT, calling a foul a "reach" is the equivalent to calling "offsides" in NFHS football. It's just not done by knowledgable officials.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 07:34pm
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
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I have noticed a lot of what I would call 'extreme boxing out' on FTs. The inside guy actually turns and pushes with both arms. I have seen it with several teams in the past couple of days.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 08:24pm
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
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Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology."
That's great when you're on a coaching forum but this ain't a coaching forum. It is NOT a foul to reach.

I'd say you're basketball coach who should give basketball rules the same respect that you give football rules when you post as a football official. There's ZERO difference.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:43pm
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On that play, the defender actually raked him across the arms before grabbing the jersey. Thus, the non-intentional foul on that one.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:50pm
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Is it me or are we seeing all officials in the tournament more intent on calling the foul in the paint before an entry pass...lots of fouls involving the swim move....but once that entry pass is made and the ball goes up...then they let them rebound.
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And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 05:24pm
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And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.
Majerski? Or Majerus?
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2007, 04:31pm
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In the BTL-MD halftime conversation, Seth Davis excused the lack of an intentional foul call "because it wasn't severe enough to warrant ejection." I expect Packer to not have a clue, but has anyone on-air ever read the rules?
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