Watta ya got video?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I admire you for making a tough call. With the advantage of slo mo replay imho it's clearly a block. Thanks for posting this. Stuff like this makes this board special.

Regarding shoulder down clip, again a block or no call imo.

Nice job.

Clearly a block? Please tell us why. Most everyone here sees this as a good player control foul call.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Clearly a block? Please tell us why. Most everyone here sees this as a good player control foul call.

IMO it's clearly a block when run in slo-mo. Why do think otherwise.

Clearly might be too strong a word, it's very close.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Clearly a block? Please tell us why. Most everyone here sees this as a good player control foul call.

I don't know if it's a 'good' player control foul. And the opinions aren't unanimous, I see what I see. I would have passed on any call on that play in that situation. Just me.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I don't know if it's a 'good' player control foul. And the opinions aren't unanymous(sp). I see what I see. I would have passed on any call on that paly in that situation. Just me.

On the drive? Both players went down hard. How can you pass on the call?

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

On the drive? Both players went down hard. How can you pass on the call?

Agree that you have to have something.....as I said, I would have had no problem with a block but have "something".....

[fullor30]

Can I ask what area you are from? And I ask that with respect. I ref in the Chicago area.

Game ending basket, no need to call a foul. If you want a definitive answer, I would have called a block any other time in the game. I take it you would have called player control.

Have shown to few refs, D1 and D3 and they passed on a call, again just everyone's opinion. It's too close.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Can I ask what area you are from? And I ask that with respect. I ref in the Chicago area.

Game ending basket, no need to call a foul. If you want a definitive answer, I would have called a block any other time in the game. I take it you would have called player control.

Have shown to few refs, D1 and D3 and they passed on a call, again just everyone's opinion. It's too close.

Those D1/D3 guys are gutless if they're passing on it because it's too close...game ending or not. This one is a foul one way or the other...not incidental.

And while I think it was clearly a charge when reviewed in slow motion, it wouldn't suprise me to have a lot of refs call it a block in live action.

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Can I ask what area you are from? And I ask that with respect. I ref in the Chicago area.

Game ending basket, no need to call a foul. If you want a definitive answer, I would have called a block any other time in the game. I take it you would have called player control.

Have shown to few refs, D1 and D3 and they passed on a call, again just everyone's opinion. It's too close.

I'm from SDakota....don't get me wrong...I totally understand the thinking of the no call...there's just too much contact in my opinion...I work DII NAIA men's and I'd have it there too.....

If you're advocating the "no call" because of the end of game scenario why not just go with the "block" since it's that close...same outcome but at least you have something for B coach even though he might not agree with you and you have something???

As I said numerous times, I have no problem with a "block".

My other argument is this...If this play happens at minute 1 of the game I've got a charge.....so in our effort to "see the same game" and have "like" calls I'd have to go with charge then as well...

I'm just impressed with the fact that in that situation he had something and something that by rule is correct...IMHO

[fullor30]

Sitting in my cushy chair with my laptop watching Ncaa's it's easy for me to formulate a call with plenty of slo-mo and thought process. as I said, his call was fine and I could live with that. I probably would have called a block on further review as there was plenty of contact. It took a lot of guts to call a charge, I appluad him.

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Sitting in my cushy chair with my laptop watching Ncaa's it's easy for me to formulate a call with plenty of slo-mo and thought process. as I said, his call was fine and I could live with that. I probably would have called a block on further review as there was plenty of contact. It took a lot of guts to call a charge, I appluad him.

Me too....I can totally see myself with a block on that sit. as well....

since it could have went either way, did that make it an easy call