State Championship Game mess up

[Moe]

Official calls a foul on the baseline on team A. 9th team foul and teams line up for 1 and 1 by team B. As the teams line up the other official who is admistering the free throw indicates two shots at the same time trail official is holding up the 1 and 1. I'm not sure if he thought the foul was in the act of shooting or that there was 10 fouls. Shot goes up and player from team B grabs an uncontested rebound and makes a basket. Whistle blows and player start to argue if it was two shots or 1 and 1. My question is what do you do now. The officials in this game got together and decided to take away the basket and go to an AP arrow which had team A getting the ball at the baseline. Was this the right proceedure.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Moe

... Whistle blows and player start to argue if it was two shots or 1 and 1...

This a casebook play so how to remedy the situation is not that difficult. But what I want to know is did the officials really argue or this just an exxageration?

[Moe]

Players argued not the officials.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Moe

Players argued not the officials.

Ooops, my bad.

My reading skills must be deteriorating.

[truerookie]

Yes, since B-1 was the only player to rebound the ball and have an uncontested layup. Going to the AP is correct.

[Ref in PA]

See 8.6.1 for the case play covering the situation.

[Adam]

1. Tell the player to shut up.
2. Go to the arrow.

[Nevadaref]

OFFICIALS PROVIDE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION
8.6.1 SITUATION: A1 is about to attempt the first of a one-and-one free-throw situation. The administering official steps in and erroneously informs players that two shots will be taken. A1's first attempt is unsuccessful. The missed shot is rebounded by: (a) B1, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; (b) A2, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; or (c) B2, with several players from both teams attempting to secure the rebound. The officials recognize their error at this point. RULING: In (a) and (b), the official's error clearly put one team at a disadvantage (players stood motionless and didn't attempt to rebound). Play should be whistled dead immediately and resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (c), both teams made an attempt to rebound despite the official's error and had an equal opportunity to gain possession of the rebound. Play should continue. (2-3)


But what if it isn't and the player who got the rebound scored first as in the OP? I don't see any provision in the rules for cancelling that goal.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

OFFICIALS PROVIDE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION
8.6.1 SITUATION: A1 is about to attempt the first of a one-and-one free-throw situation. The administering official steps in and erroneously informs players that two shots will be taken. A1's first attempt is unsuccessful. The missed shot is rebounded by: (a) B1, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; (b) A2, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; or (c) B2, with several players from both teams attempting to secure the rebound. The officials recognize their error at this point. RULING: In (a) and (b), the official's error clearly put one team at a disadvantage (players stood motionless and didn't attempt to rebound). Play should be whistled dead immediately and resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (c), both teams made an attempt to rebound despite the official's error and had an equal opportunity to gain possession of the rebound. Play should continue. (2-3)


But what if it isn't and the player who got the rebound scored first as in the OP? I don't see any provision in the rules for cancelling that goal.

Exactly, which is why the reference at the end of the ruling it reads (2-3).

Cancel the basket, go to the AP, they did. IMO, they handled it correctly.

[Nevadaref]

So, if the isn't stopped right away, but the throw-in is completed and the ball is advanced to the division line where a foul occurs and only then is it brought to the attention of the officials are you still going to invoke 2-3 and cancel the goal?

What exactly is your timeline here?

[BktBallRef]

Quite honestly, it could be very difficult to kill it before the same thing happens that happened above. If it can be killed before the throw-in begins, I've got no problem handling it that way. Most likely, someone's going to be raising hell before it even gets to that point.

[mick]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Quite honestly, it could be very difficult to kill it before the same thing happens that happened above. If it can be killed before the throw-in begins, I've got no problem handling it that way. Most likely, someone's going to be raising hell before it even gets to that point.

Whack the rebounder for failure to promptly return the ball to the official.

[RefereeAJ]

nevermind the AP, close the books on this one!!!!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by RefereeAJ

nevermind the AP, close the books on this one!!!!

Huh? Care to elaborate?

[boiseball]

this was the 4A championship game for Idaho and the officials were having a nice ride until this little bobble; it was a play where it would have seemed obvious that it was a two shot foul; but turned out the calling official called the push in the back that happened right before the rebound and shot, so it was 1 and 1. I was sitting high in the bleachers and saw the administering referee say 2 shots and I new it was about to hit the fan if he missed the first shot; it was unfortunate but they handled the clean up as best they could; unfortunately the game kind of went into the crapper after that, not really there fault but there were a couple of hot heads. Just another reminder of how important communication is; I felt like the calling official should have been on top of things, he should have known he had surprised everyone when he called 1 and 1 and he should have been watching his partner carefully to make sure they were on the same page; but he relaxed, like we all do from time to time;