Did anyone see the end of the A&M vs Texas game tonight.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by iref4him

I thought it was an intentional foul too. But, how many times do we as officials not call the intentional. We are engrained to let the kids decide the game and sometimes we bend the role as not to be the bad guy. It was a smart play by Texas. Take a gamble. Most refs will do what they did. Call the common foul. Watch games and ask officials - most will say that I knew it was intentional but didn't want to call it.

If that is your opinion of most refs, then that is sad. I certainly am not one of those that is too scared to make the tough call when it is the right call just because it will be unpopular.
I consider the people that fall into your characterization to be weak, and I believe that they should quit officiating.

[Adam]

It's a coaching issue, and if there are officials who won't call this, then they need to have their hands slapped. But they won't. Regardless, coaches who don't do this right are taking a risk.
How many times do you see kids trying to swipe the arm of the dribbler just to get a foul called? When they do that, the miss about 55.783740184% of the time. Then, they get frustrated we aren't calling a foul and start hugging and shoving to make sure there's a foul.
If they make an overly agressive attempt for the ball, they're less likely to get the two worst results; nothing or an intentional foul.
Should the rules committee make a change because coaches aren't good at using this strategy?

I don't know what the middle ground would be. A third free throw, perhaps? Or maybe one free throw and the ball? How about awarding two points to the offended team and giving the ball to the fouling team as if the basket had been made?

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=Snaqwells]When they do that, the miss about 55.783740184% of the time.

Where in the H-E-DOUBLE LL you come up with that percentage?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When they do that, they miss about 55.783740184% of the time.

Originally Posted by truerookie

Where in the H-E-DOUBLE LL you come up with that percentage?

My sources are classified.

[SmokeEater]

Our Association had a pre-Playoff meeting where we were told if you hear a Coach directly tell his players to foul then it was to be called intentional. When I questioned the fact that just telling the kids to foul does not fit the definition of Intentional, I was told that most times the foul will not be a legal attempt to play the ball and it is to be called as such. I just had to agree to disagree and do what they wanted.

FYI, I have only had to make this call 2 times in 12 games. Each time the coach would call out a color like RED and his player would run up and foul the opposition. Once was on a ball carrier and one was just a blatent body check to a girl running up the floor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Our Association had a pre-Playoff meeting where we were told if you hear a Coach directly tell his players to foul then it was to be called intentional.

That was the FED interp a few years ago. It's been changed.

[FrankHtown]

The most interesting thing is EVERY coach wants this called intentional...except if it's against his/her team!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Our Association had a pre-Playoff meeting where we were told if you hear a Coach directly tell his players to foul then it was to be called intentional. When I questioned the fact that just telling the kids to foul does not fit the definition of Intentional, I was told that most times the foul will not be a legal attempt to play the ball and it is to be called as such. I just had to agree to disagree and do what they wanted.

FYI, I have only had to make this call 2 times in 12 games. Each time the coach would call out a color like RED and his player would run up and foul the opposition. Once was on a ball carrier and one was just a blatent body check to a girl running up the floor.

That's very disappointing to hear that you are being instructed to call it that way.
As Bob said this interpretation by the FED has changed. You should show your association leaders the following:

2005-06 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
3. Intentional Fouls.
B. Late in the game.
...
There is a right way and a wrong way to foul. Coaches must instruct their players in the proper technique for strategic fouling. "Going for the ball" is a common phrase heard, but intentional fouls should still be called on players who go for the ball if it is not done properly. Conversely, a coach who yells, "Foul!" instructions to his or her team does not mean the ensuing foul is "automatically" an intentional foul – even though it is a strategic foul designed to stop the clock. Coaches, officials, players, fans and administrators must accept fouling as a legitimate coaching strategy.


The old NFHS policy that has been superceded by the above came from the 2000-01 season.

NFHS 2000-01 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
Intentional Fouls - Excessive Contact
...
Acts that MUST be deemed intentional include:
• grabbing a player from behind;
• wrapping the arms around a player;
• grabbing a player away from the ball;
• grabbing or shoving a player from behind when an easy basket may be scored;
• grabbing/holding a player by the jersey in order to impede their progress;
• when coach/player says "watch, we're going to foul;" and
• excessive contact on a player attempting a shot.