Stop Sign Not Considered Harmful

[GarthB]

Okay, what we have here is two parties stating the truth.

1. Oldie has a booklet put out by NASO/Referee that carries and endorsement by NFHS on the cover. In this booklet there is some mention of the "stop sign."

2. J-R accurately states that the "stop sign" has never been a POE and has not been included in the NFHS rules publications.

Both positions can co-exist in reality, however Oldie has moved outside his truthful statement by insinuating that mention in his booklet equates to a POE and that his booklet has the force of a rules publication.

Either Oldie doesn't know what a POE is, or mistakenly believes that any mention of anything in any booklet with the NFHS logo is a POE.

Until Oldie understands that POE is a specific term with a specific meaning this conversation is going nowhere.

But, before I give up completely, let me recheck...

Giddyap.....c'mon....Giddyap dammit.....

Nope. It's dead.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Okay, what we have here is two parties stating the truth.

1. Oldie has a booklet put out by NASO/Referee that carries and endorsement by NFHS on the cover. In this booklet there is some mention of the "stop sign."

2. J-R accurately states that the "stop sign" has never been a POE and has not been included in the NFHS rules publications.

Both positions can co-exist in reality, however Oldie has moved outside his truthful statement by insinuating that mention in his booklet equates to a POE and that his booklet has the force of a rules publication.

Either Oldie doesn't know what a POE is, or mistakenly believes that any mention of anything in any booklet with the NFHS logo is a POE.

Until Oldie understands that POE is a specific term with a specific meaning this conversation is going nowhere.

But, before I give up completely, let me recheck...

Giddyap.....c'mon....Giddyap dammit.....Nope. It's dead.

Wrong again, but maybe your horse is dead. Right at the top of the page, it says POE. I have not changed my position and it is not worth debating any further. I have stated exactly what I meant. These topics are there as an aid, not an absolute. It is written in an official NFHS document. Just because you and JR don't have a copy makes me wrong or you right. What you are debating is whether or not I'm credible. I am not going to debate that with you or anyone else. I do not care what you think about me because I do not have to work with any of you. If you want to debate the topic, I will defend my position until my death. If you want to debate if I am a HS official or not, then that has no bearing whatsoever on the topic. It is a weak and defeated man's attempt to try and change the subject. Weaker, lesser men will fall prey to such a tactic.

[GarthB]

[BillyMac]

1) Let's assume that there really was a NASO/Referee Preseason Basketball Guide that suggests that officials may use a visual warning to indicate to the coach that "enough is enough".

2) Let's assume that this NASO/Referee Preseason Basketball Guide is officially sanctioned by the NFHS because it carries the NFHS logo.

3) Let's assume that a Point of Emphasis in the NASO/Referee Preseason Basketball Guide sanctioned by the NFHS does not have the same meaning as a Point Of Emphasis in the NFHS Rule Book.

Assuming these three things, has the NFHS suggested that officials may use a visual warning to indicate to the coach that "enough is enough"?

Old School: Is there any way you could get to a scanner, scan the article about the visual warning from the NASO/Referee Preseason Basketball Guide, and post it as a thread on the Forum web site? I would really be interested in seeing it.

[Old School]

I will do that. I will have to make a special trip to Kinko's or somewhere like this to get it done. I might add that there is some excellent information in these newsletters, especially rule changes for the upcoming season. Going back and reviewing some of these newsletters, I do recall there was one article that had the answer to a test question. This was the only place I could find it.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Old School: Is there any way you could get to a scanner, scan the article about the visual warning from the NASO/Referee Preseason Basketball Guide, and post it as a thread on the Forum web site? I would really be interested in seeing it.

I have the pages scanned but they are too big to post here. Any suggestions...???

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

I have the pages scanned but they are too big to post here. Any suggestions...???

Just one. Let it rest. Otherwise, there's probably a web site somewhere that will host something like this. Something like a youtube for pdf documents.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Old School

I have the pages scanned but they are too big to post here. Any suggestions...???

E-mail it to me as an attachment if you can and I should be able to edit the size.