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Old Sun Feb 25, 2007, 07:13pm
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There is nothing a stop sign can do that a low volume word or two cannot do.
Garth, I'd say you have to consider college ball when games are video taped (or even hs games w/ video taping) that don't have the audio capabilities to pick up your soft word to the coach. However, lets say a coach doesn't heed a warning and you have to give a tech a few plays later -- then at least on tape they have a visable sign that the coach was WARNED.

Of course, you don't always need to give a stop sign... some coaches just need a pleasant reminder to stay under control. But to say that there is nothing it can do is an overstatement.
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Old Sun Feb 25, 2007, 07:45pm
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Garth, I'd say you have to consider college ball when games are video taped (or even hs games w/ video taping) that don't have the audio capabilities to pick up your soft word to the coach. However, lets say a coach doesn't heed a warning and you have to give a tech a few plays later -- then at least on tape they have a visable sign that the coach was WARNED.
Since you did not read my other post about this, then let me say this about your assumption. You are assuming that every aspect of a game is video taped. It clearly is not. I have multiple video taped games just from this year and there many times you cannot see the officials in during the game. You also cannot see many dead ball situations. So now you are relying on the tape to show something it might not display at all. So when there is a FT, you might not see where the Trail official is located and who they are talking to.

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Of course, you don't always need to give a stop sign... some coaches just need a pleasant reminder to stay under control. But to say that there is nothing it can do is an overstatement.
It is just as overstated to say it should be used or that it is not harmful (like the title of this thread). As I have said many times before, you cannot use what works for someone else and automatically translate that into your game. It also takes experience to know when to use something effectively. I just choose not to use a tool that can go one way or the other that is also very public.

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Old Sun Feb 25, 2007, 08:00pm
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I'm A Terrible Typer ...

From MJT: "BillyMac, do you type about 200 words/minute? You have some of the longest posts I have ever seen!"

MJT: I'm a terrible typer. On top of that I refuse to use the spell check offered by this Forum because I'm not very computer literate, I'm using Windows 98, I bet I'm one of the few Forum members to still use this 20th century operating system, and I'm afraid that I'll screw up something on my computer if I download a second spell check program. I actually use something called a dictionary, for our younger Forum members, this is a book with paper pages that contains a lot of correctly spelled words in alphabetical order, to check my spelling, again a 20th century technology. I'm always afraid that when I post I'll be "caught" by our "Annoying Spelling" Forum member.

I'm a member of my local association's training committee and I have maintained a virtual library of handouts, etc., regarding basketball rules, for the purpose of this committee, on my hard drive. I have also copied and pasted text from my previous posts, since the same questions seem to keep coming up as more new members join the Forum.

As a retired teacher, I'm now an analytical chemist, I guess that I can't stop teaching, whether it be as a member of my local association's training committee, or as a member of this Forum. After thirty-one years of teaching, I felt very confident teaching my science classes. Believe it or not, as a twenty-six year official, I feel less confident in my knowledge of basketball rules, which is why I often look to our more veteran Forum members for help and advice.

I hope that my posts don't bore too many Forum members. I'm just trying to give some of our younger Forum members some of the knowledge that I've gained over the past twenty-six years.

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