A First...and a not so good first.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Red_Killian

My only question would be, did you consider an intentional on the initial foul by A1?

In this particular case, calling it intentional wouldn't have made any difference. The technical foul after the personal gives possession of the ball to Team A, even if A1's foul is ruled intentional.

The intentional call might send a message, if that's what you were thinking about, but it wouldn't make any difference in how the play was administered.

[RushmoreRef]

Great job with a tough situation...they're tough because you don't get much practice with them, all you can do is pregame and think them over and you guys handled them well.

[Red_Killian]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In this particular case, calling it intentional wouldn't have made any difference. The technical foul after the personal gives possession of the ball to Team A, even if A1's foul is ruled intentional.

The intentional call might send a message, if that's what you were thinking about, but it wouldn't make any difference in how the play was administered.

I totally agree an intentional on the 1st foul would make no difference on A2's actions or on the administration after the flagrant was called.

My point was both players going into the mat after the foul by A1 sure sounds like excessive contact, with potential for injuries and these need to be called as intentionals at any point of the game, despite the play on the ball. The message is a play on the ball does not give a player the right to wipe out another player.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Red_Killian

The message is a play on the ball does not give a player the right to wipe out another player.

Can't disagree with that!

[Junker]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In this particular case, calling it intentional wouldn't have made any difference. The technical foul after the personal gives possession of the ball to Team A, even if A1's foul is ruled intentional.

The intentional call might send a message, if that's what you were thinking about, but it wouldn't make any difference in how the play was administered.

It makes a slight difference in where the ball is administered for the throw in. Depending on the amount of time on the clock, this could have been a huge difference. Great job of getting with your partners and talking out excactly what you had before going to the bench.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Junker

It makes a slight difference in where the ball is administered for the throw in.

I don't think so. You've got 2 possible scenarios:

1) Common personal foul on B1 followed by intentional technical on A2; or
2) Intentional personal foul on B1 followed by intentional technical on A2.

In (1), A1 shoots 2 free throws then any member of Team B shoots 2 free throws, then Team B receives the ball at midcourt for a throw-in.

In (2), A1 shoots 2 free throws then any member of Team B shoots 2 free throws, then Team B receives the ball at midcourt for a throw-in.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Junker

It makes a slight difference in where the ball is administered for the throw in. Depending on the amount of time on the clock, this could have been a huge difference. Great job of getting with your partners and talking out excactly what you had before going to the bench.

You may want to issue a retraction, Jeff.

[26 Year Gap]

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You're quoting Old School's "wise man" now?


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