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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 12:37pm
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Flagrant foul ejection

hello;
today i read in a post that someone had ejected a player on two seperate ocassions for flagrant fouls. would you clarify for me when it is adviseable to eject a player for a flagrant foul?... thanks a million!
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hello;
today i read in a post that someone had ejected a player on two seperate ocassions for flagrant fouls. would you clarify for me when it is adviseable to eject a player for a flagrant foul?... thanks a million!
Ummm, since that's the rule.....always.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 12:43pm
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Any act deemed flagrant by the official, such acts could include swinging at an opponent, tackling an opponent when going for a layup, extreme profanity towards an official, throwing the ball excessively towards a player/offficial... just to name a few.
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Generally, when it's a fight.
Othertimes are when the contact so severe it had to be meant to hurt someone; or when you can simply see the malicious intent in the player.
Or, if a coach threatens that you'll never work one of his games again; or if a player drops a string of obscenities directed towards you and your family.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 12:51pm
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flagrant foul ejection

hmmmm.

i have seen several officials call a "flagrant" foul WITHOUT ejecting a player.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 01:04pm
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hmmmm.

i have seen several officials call a "flagrant" foul WITHOUT ejecting a player.
The NBA has a rule where you can call a flagrant foul and not eject someone. At the NCAA and NF, flagrant fouls are ejectable offenses only.

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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 01:05pm
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hmmmm.

i have seen several officials call a "flagrant" foul WITHOUT ejecting a player.

Is it possible an intentional foul was called instead of a flagrant? This results in two shots for the offended player and the ball back at the spot of the foul.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 01:10pm
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hmmmm.

i have seen several officials call a "flagrant" foul WITHOUT ejecting a player.
Not unless it was an NBA game.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 05:07pm
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Intentional vs. Flagrant

it IS entirely possible that the officials I have seen call INTENTIONAL fouls using the FLAGRANT foul designation.

thanks all for the clarification!
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 05:19pm
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it IS entirely possible that the officials I have seen call INTENTIONAL fouls using the FLAGRANT foul designation.

thanks all for the clarification!
There's no such thing as a "flagrant foul designation."

What designation do you think you saw?
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 08:32pm
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There's no such thing as a "flagrant foul designation."

What designation do you think you saw?

No, not in HS. But some HS official seem to watch too much NBA and refer to an intentional as a "flagrant" foul. Unfortunately I've seen it happen more than once. Thankfully I haven't yet worked with someone who was that mixed up...hopefully never will.
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it IS entirely possible that the officials I have seen call INTENTIONAL fouls using the FLAGRANT foul designation.

thanks all for the clarification!

If you are familiar with the signal umpires use to toss Lou Piniella out of a game then you would recognize a basketball official designating a foul as flagrant resulting in ejection.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2007, 09:15pm
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If you are familiar with the signal umpires use to toss Lou Piniella out of a game then you would recognize a basketball official designating a foul as flagrant resulting in ejection.
What?! Has he been ejected already?!
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Although "pitchers & catchers" reporting is the un-official start to the season. "Umpires & Managers" reporting precedes that.
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extreme profanity towards an official,

I thought OS demoted this to a warning!
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