Women's 10-second count

[crazy voyager]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

A few years ago the backcourt time limit was reduced to 8 seconds, at the same time the shot clock was reduced to 24 seconds.

Just curious, what year was the shot clock and count reduced? I have never played with the long clock, but I have once gotten old referee materials out containing refrences to the 30-second clock and 10 -second count.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

As I write this reply to DC_Ref12's question, there have been only two replies to his question: Snake~Eyes and CoachP. Unfortunately, both of their replies are incorrect.

Prior to the late 1980's women's college basketball used the National Association of Girls and Women in Sports (NAGWS) basketball rules. NAGWS basketball rules were loosely based on a mixture of National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada (NBCUSC), which was the forerunner of the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's Rules Committees, and the International Federation of Basketball Associations (FIBA; USA Basketball represents the United States of America and its basketball organizations to FIBA).

Unitl a few years ago FIBA did not have a backcourt time limit; it now has an eight (8) second time limit. NAGWS did not have a backcourt time limit because it also used the FIBA thirty (30) second shot clock rule (it now uses the NBA/WNBA 24 second shot clock). FIBA's rational at the time for not having a backcourt time limit was the shot clock rule.

NAGWAS adopted other FIBA rules which are still in the NCAA Women's rules:

1) Closely guarded while holding the ball, not while dribbling, and just like in FIBA, this rule also applies to the backcourt.

2) While FIBA only allows the Head Coach to requests timeouts and this request must be made by the HC to the Official Scorer, NAGWS was using the current timeout request rule used by both the NFHS and the NCAA Men's (and NCAA Women's) in the 1960's.

So ends the history lesson.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. One other FIBA rule that has been in the women's game since the NAGWS days is the distance needed to establish a closely guarded position: six (6) feet in NFHS and NCAA Men's but NCAA Wome's is three (3) feet like FIBA.

[billyc8037]

Massachusetts HS has NO 10 second back-court yet does use the 30 second shot clock for JV as well as Varsity Girls. Both Boys and Girls Middle School/Jr.High has NO 10 second back-court and NO 30 second shot clock.

[JRutledge]

The reason is simple. You have one committee for the Men's game, you have one for the Women's game and you have another for the NF. All these committees do not have to agree on anything.

Peace