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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:22pm
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Under NCAA rules there is no T. Not even a judgement issue.

10.3.21

Art. 21. Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being promptly made live or by preventing continuous play. This shall also apply to bench personnel.

a. When the delay does not interfere with play, it shall be ignored and play shall be continued or be resumed at the point of interruption.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:29pm
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I can't believe some of you would actually call a T in this case. I could see if there was some taunting or if the quarter hadn't ended. In the original post this was a regional, not that it would make any difference to me. What is the true spirit an intent of the rule. I'm not saying you'd be miss applying a rule. But don't you think your missing the intent of the rule?
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:32pm
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I can't believe some of you would actually call a T in this case. I could see if there was some taunting or if the quarter hadn't ended. In the original post this was a regional, not that it would make any difference to me. What is the true spirit an intent of the rule. I'm not saying you'd be miss applying a rule. But don't you think your missing the intent of the rule?
So you're saying that the NCAA officials who called the T on the crowd coming on the court last season (Duke/Florida State) were wrong?

The game's not over and the crowd comes onto the court like this? If it takes more time to clear up and start immediately than if they had not come on the floor....darned right I'd have a technical foul.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:37pm
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So you're saying that the NCAA officials who called the T on the crowd coming on the court last season (Duke/Florida State) were wrong?

The game's not over and the crowd comes onto the court like this? If it takes more time to clear up and start immediately than if they had not come on the floor....darned right I'd have a technical foul.
I was thinking of the same thing.

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/413188.html

In that game, there were still 1.7 seconds left in the game and the fans inexplicably rushed the court. But to me, there's no difference between time being left on the clock and the game not being over due to overtime. The fans don't belong on the court during the game. It's not safe for the players, the officials, anybody.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:37pm
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Bench clearing is one thing, and even if the bleachers start to spill out a bit, that's okay. I'll herd them back to their bench and we'll play on once game management gets the crowd back to their seats; if they can do it in a reasonable amount of time.
But a "huge celebration in the middle of the court?" I'm assuming the players were involved in this "huge celebration," in which case I'm likely to issue the T.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:39pm
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So you're saying that the NCAA officials who called the T on the crowd coming on the court last season (Duke/Florida State) were wrong?
As I recall there was still time on the clock in that game.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:44pm
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In that situation, I'd pass on the T, allow game management to clear the floor of the fans, put 4 mins on the clock, toss it up and play ball.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:54pm
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As I recall there was still time on the clock in that game.
I'm not sure what difference that makes. In both cases, the game isn't over yet.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 03:13pm
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I'm not sure what difference that makes. In both cases, the game isn't over yet.
The point is there is still at least that one minute time frame in between the 4th quarter and overtime. If you would T the team for being out on the floor at that time, would you give them a T for being out on the court in between the 1st and 2nd qts. as well? Of course not. The fans being on the court is a problem, but I would allow game management to do their job and get the floor cleared off. If they can't get it cleared off in a reasonable time (approximately 1 minute), then the T becomes an option.
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