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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 09:59am
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I had a coach tell me a call was (verbatim) "complete B.S." last weekend. I whacked him for it.
I have heard from more than one camp, when dealing with game managment issues, there is a difference between "that was a bs call" and "you are a bs official".... Again not judging, because you did say that it was a culmination of events, just throwing out some more discussion fodder
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:05am
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I have heard from more than one camp, when dealing with game managment issues, there is a difference between "that was a bs call" and "you are a bs official".... Again not judging, because you did say that it was a culmination of events, just throwing out some more discussion fodder
Good point. I should point out that this particular coach's comments were directed toward my partner and I specifically, not to our calls in general. My partner told me after the game that he caught a few "You guys are pathetic" throughout the game, but apparently didn't feel the need to whack him as well.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:04pm
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Good point. I should point out that this particular coach's comments were directed toward my partner and I specifically, not to our calls in general. My partner told me after the game that he caught a few "You guys are pathetic" throughout the game, but apparently didn't feel the need to whack him as well.

Were you [DC_Ref12] robertclasalle's partner? Your comments sound like firsthand participation.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 09:38pm
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Thought I Had A "T" But...

Boys varsity game last night. Player A-1 is first to get a loose ball on the floor. He's on the ground when he controls the ball. I'm waiting for him to call timeout, or for a defender to also grab the ball, for a held ball, or for a defender to foul A-1, or for A-1 to pass or to start a dribble while on the floor. Instead, none of those happen. He stands up and then begins a dribble. I call a travel violation. The coach of Team A, a highly respected former Division I player, and a well respected coach, is right behind me. He says "That's not a travel". I say to him "If he dribbled and then stood up it would be legal, but instead he stood up and then dribbled, which is a travel". He responds to me "I hate it when...". I'm ready for some "T-able" comment, until he finishes with "...your right". Some coaches are OK.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:05am
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I have heard from more than one camp, when dealing with game managment issues, there is a difference between "that was a bs call" and "you are a bs official"....
Maybe in college.....not in high school. No place for it there(supposedly).
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:05am
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There is a misconception that if the rant isn't personally directed at the official that the official shouldn't whack the coach.

WHile I have told non ref friends that the magic word isn't what they think it is, its "YOU" for a laugh, there is a modicum of truth to it. However, its not just that. Its the body language. Its the demeanor. Its the historionics that goes along with the rant that can still draw a Technical even if the rant is not directed at the official but at the call instead.

I had a coach tell me quietly that the last call was "BS", and I let it go. He didn't show me up. He didn't get the crowd wound up. So I just ignored him. He let me know. I heard him. The game went on.
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Old Sat Feb 17, 2007, 11:42am
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I have heard from more than one camp, when dealing with game managment issues...
Ya know what? They really should stop trying to teach "game management" at camps. Stick to mechanics and how to blow the whistle.

If someone crosses your line then take care of it. That's game management. Figure out where "the line" is for you and act accordingly.
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