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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 09:29am
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10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 09:55am
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10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?
I was thinking the same thing. Were they notified that if the coach didn't leave, the game would be forfeited?
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:03am
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Thought this was handled fantastically......from beginning to end, even passing on the first "bull crap" comment....Even though it took awhile for him to leave the court, I'm glad you stuck with it and didn't declare a forfeit even though you could have.....a well-earned $25, or whatever they pay you there
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:18am
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I think you did a great job but I think that the forfeit was something that might have been needed. You said that you gave him the T because his comments were teaching the players disrespect for authority. He too, was being disrespectful all the way through to the point where he refused to leave and quite frankly "won" the battle although it appears he lost the war. When he continued to challenge you by refusing to leave - I think I would have gone to the timer and given him 30 seconds to be off before a forfeit was declared. If the coach didn't go - call the forfeit. I think you lost some integrity by not doing it. But - that said - I wasn't there to see/hear/sense the whole situation.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:23am
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I believe the book recommends forfeits and appling T's on fans as very last resorts. I think this was handled as best it could be. Be patient. Good job. The game is for the players; they ultimately loose in these situations.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:08am
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I was thinking the same thing. Were they notified that if the coach didn't leave, the game would be forfeited?
I didn't want it to escalate any worse than it did. I dragged my feet about forfeiting the game but my partner and I were prepared to do that if he didn't leave. Thankfully, he did, and we finished the game without further incident.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:10am
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10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?
My sentiments exactly. 10 minutes was 8-9 minutes to long. Forfeit the game and send a copy of the report to the school, school board and the state high school association. Both the coach and AD should be suspended, fined or fired.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:14am
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My sentiments exactly. 10 minutes was 8-9 minutes to long. Forfeit the game and send a copy of the report to the school, school board and the state high school association. Both the coach and AD should be suspended, fined or fired.

As a matter of fact the rule specifically states "Ejected adult bench personnel should leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area IMMEDIATELY.... Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:53am
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I think I would have ejected the AD as well, using the standard fan ejection method. There is no place for threatening of officials by school personnel. I hope that the AD is sanctioned in some manner.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:57am
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I think I would have ejected the AD as well, using the standard fan ejection method. There is no place for threatening of officials by school personnel. I hope that the AD is sanctioned in some manner.
the standard fan ejection procedure where I am is to ask (usually the AD) to remove the offending party....that would be a good one...hey Mr AD I need you to remove someone...AD: "who is it" official: " ummm can you go look in the mirror" LOL
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 10:57am
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Thumbs up

Great job handling this situation, including being patient and avoiding the forfeit. I'm glad you're an official.
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