JV coach ejection

[SmokeEater]

Sounds like there is some type of History between you and the AD!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by robertclasalle

My IAABO chapter secretary forwarded my report to the NJSIAA (New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association). They are the sanctioning authority for high school sports. It was also forwarded to the Principal, because the AD told me the next day (tongue in cheek), "Thanks to you, Bob, I now have to meet with my Principal." He said this in a joking manner, not disrespectfully or critically.

Great job, Robert. That's exactly what's needed to ensure that crap like that doesn't happen again to a different official.

You also gained the respect of that AD from the sound of it.

[sj]

Good report. The Ad's behavior was worse than his coaches. Even with the apology I'd scratch the school and never go back until the AD is gone.

[Ignats75]

10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?

[AFHusker]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?

I was thinking the same thing. Were they notified that if the coach didn't leave, the game would be forfeited?

[RushmoreRef]

Thought this was handled fantastically......from beginning to end, even passing on the first "bull crap" comment....Even though it took awhile for him to leave the court, I'm glad you stuck with it and didn't declare a forfeit even though you could have.....a well-earned $25, or whatever they pay you there

[chartrusepengui]

I think you did a great job but I think that the forfeit was something that might have been needed. You said that you gave him the T because his comments were teaching the players disrespect for authority. He too, was being disrespectful all the way through to the point where he refused to leave and quite frankly "won" the battle although it appears he lost the war. When he continued to challenge you by refusing to leave - I think I would have gone to the timer and given him 30 seconds to be off before a forfeit was declared. If the coach didn't go - call the forfeit. I think you lost some integrity by not doing it. But - that said - I wasn't there to see/hear/sense the whole situation.

[robertclasalle]

Originally Posted by AFHusker

I was thinking the same thing. Were they notified that if the coach didn't leave, the game would be forfeited?

I didn't want it to escalate any worse than it did. I dragged my feet about forfeiting the game but my partner and I were prepared to do that if he didn't leave. Thankfully, he did, and we finished the game without further incident.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

10 minutes for the coach to leave? Isn't that grounds for a forfeit?

My sentiments exactly. 10 minutes was 8-9 minutes to long. Forfeit the game and send a copy of the report to the school, school board and the state high school association. Both the coach and AD should be suspended, fined or fired.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

My sentiments exactly. 10 minutes was 8-9 minutes to long. Forfeit the game and send a copy of the report to the school, school board and the state high school association. Both the coach and AD should be suspended, fined or fired.

As a matter of fact the rule specifically states "Ejected adult bench personnel should leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area IMMEDIATELY.... Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.

[Eastshire]

I think I would have ejected the AD as well, using the standard fan ejection method. There is no place for threatening of officials by school personnel. I hope that the AD is sanctioned in some manner.

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by robertclasalle

“take a good look at that ref, because you’ll never see him in this gym again,”

Good Job. After the above comment, I would have replied, "That's the first time you have been right all night". I would block them and make sure I was the first call my assigner answered that night. This is high school athletics. Neither the coach nor the AD obviously get it. IMO, both need to find a new line of work.

Mregor

[rainmaker]

For me, the forfeit would be no-brainer when the AD threatened to tear up the voucher. Absolutely unbelievable!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mregor

Good Job. After the above comment, I would have replied, "That's the first time you have been right all night". I would block them and make sure I was the first call my assigner answered that night. This is high school athletics. Neither the coach nor the AD obviously get it. IMO, both need to find a new line of work.

Mregor

That line is a flagrant technical when I'm officiating. First technical, second technical, whatever, that coach is gone. Football, basketball, baseball, it doesn't matter.

Five years ago, I passed on tossing a coach on that line. I regretted it then and swore I would never let another coach threaten my schedule while I was working. Do that and you're gone -- if you say I'll never work there again, what's the point of me keeping you around?

How is your new location treating you, Mregor?

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

How is your new location treating you, Mregor?

Hey Rich - worked 2 playoff games this year so far. Just waiting for more phone calls. It's day-by-day scheduling for playoffs here. You get that D1 boys sectional final?

Roger M