TO granted while ball in air during pass?

[mick]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Agree completely...and coaches seem to not understand when a TO is not immediately granted. Especially in a loud gym with fans right there with coaches, many times I have to look to be certain the coach is asking, be certain it is his team who is in control, and then determine if there is player control before granting. This can be quick, or if the coach is at the other end of the court and there is lots of action I need to be watching on the court, can take a second or two.

Personally, I liked when it had to be a player...

While I am watching play [and being aware of player control], I may only hear a request for time.
If I must turn to verify the request, that's good enough for me, because I had actually recognized a legitimate request while I was seeing player control and I disregard any subsequent loss of player control [and I disregard the fact that any time was consumed].

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by mick

While I am watching play [and being aware of player control], I may only hear a request for time.
If I must turn to verify the request, that's good enough for me, because I had actually recognized a legitimate request while I was seeing player control and I disregard any subsequent loss of player control [and I disregard the fact that any time was consumed].

Good advice...I guess I never thought of it that way. I'd be interested in how others handle this situation???

[mplagrow]

Had one today where coach was getting nervous as A1 struggled to get the ball in. A split second after A1 released, coach yells, "TIME OUT!" I waited until A2 caught the ball and granted the time out. Funny, he didn't want it anymore! Coaches are so fickle.

[SMEngmann]

Originally Posted by mick

While I am watching play [and being aware of player control], I may only hear a request for time.
If I must turn to verify the request, that's good enough for me, because I had actually recognized a legitimate request while I was seeing player control and I disregard any subsequent loss of player control [and I disregard the fact that any time was consumed].

This is why it's so difficult to officiate the timeout called by the coach. If there's a turnover or a clear loss of control before the whistle, you're gonna have a situation.

[mplagrow]

Maybe it would simplify things if from now on, all time out requests were submitted in writing. I'll start working on a form. . .

[Junker]

Early this year I had a good 4A girl's matchup. In the second half, I had some light pressure and a little 2 on 2 bringing the ball up the court as T. The gym was loud as hell. I hear "time out" from the home bench. By the time I can look at the bench, the head coach is just standing there, doing nothing. I pull out my whistle and ask if he wants a TO. He does nothing. I ask again, and just as he starts to confirm that he did indeed want the TO, the ball is stripped and we go the other way for a lay up. Next possession he did get his time out. I tried to explain what happened, but he was being a jerk about it so I walked away. I was with 2 of the best officials in our area (if not the state) that night and somehow I was rotated away from him for most of the game.

[Four-Oh]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

Maybe it would simplify things if from now on, all time out requests were submitted in writing. I'll start working on a form. . .

Here in Ontario (for club basketball, not HS), they went one better... they switched from Fed to FIBA rules this season: no more time-outs when the ball is live! It took some getting used to, having players or coaches call time out to get themselves out of trouble on the court and remembering to refuse the request!
Andrew