Your opinions please

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

Official A and B showed lack of dignity to stand up for themselves -- lack of pride in what they do in thier failure to punish said coach and no self-respect for taking such verbal abuse -- I could be wrong but what the OP described sounded like a lack of all 3 to me.

I realize that the first emotion for many is to go off on the coach and curse him out. That would have likely done nothing but give the coach ammo to behave worse than he already has and to blame you for the confrontation.

I have had a similar situation happen to me after a game and I told the coach that he need to leave right now because we are not discussing what happen in the game. I did not realize when I first read this that the game was still going on, but I think the officials handled themselves wonderfully considering the fact the game was not over. He would have likely been T'd if not ejected from the game. We might have had to talk about it in the locker room.

But to say they showed a lack of dignity to not lower themselves to the level of the coach is absurd to me.

Peace

[deecee]

i never said lower themselves to the level of the coach

As invited, I went to the officials’ room at halftime. As I passed through the locker area and went around a corner to wait in front of the officials’ dressing room, Coach was screaming about someone with no restraint about his volume or his profanities. A moment later, the officials entered the area and I realized Coach had been waiting there to confront A. He verbally attacked A -- screamed at him, used several profanities, screamed about several calls/no-calls, screamed that he should go back to where he came from (A just rejoined our association after being out of area for several years), etc., etc. Any attempts by A to respond were interrupted by more screaming. As mentioned, I was just around a corner and did not see this -- I only heard this portion of the tirade. This continued for perhaps a minute or so, then they all came around the corner so the coach could unlock the officials’ locker room. At that point I both heard and saw as the shouting continued (it never abated) as Coach unlocked the door and I followed A and B into the officials’ room. I do not recall at any time during the verbal attack hearing B attempt to mitigate the confrontation or intercede on A’s behalf.

do you just stand there cornered? what do you do if you cannot get any words in? this isnt MLK's nonviolent sit-ins -- but in this case this official needs to be a bit more assertive IMO. And when he has a second alone with his partner slap the he!! out of him for not trying to defuse the situation. And its ok to stand up for yourself in this situation -- I mean you dont have to cold cock the guy unless you feel threatened in such a way but it sounds like they let him step all over them as a crew.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

do you just stand there cornered?

What were they supposed to do, fight him?

Originally Posted by deecee

what do you do if you cannot get any words in?

I would have hoped that I let the coach just talk himself out. What else can you say but "Can you let me into the room please?"

Originally Posted by deecee

this isnt MLK's nonviolent sit-ins -- but in this case this official needs to be a bit more assertive IMO.

Dude, this is not a protest march or sit-in. This is not a Civil Rights issue. This is a person overreacting to an issue in a sporting event. This did not take place in a bar or in the parking lot which I might handle totally different.

Originally Posted by deecee

And when he has a second alone with his partner slap the he!! out of him for not trying to defuse the situation. And its ok to stand up for yourself in this situation -- I mean you dont have to cold cock the guy unless you feel threatened in such a way but it sounds like they let him step all over them as a crew.

That is fine if you feel that way. I do not agree with you that you need to get upset or act as if you are about to fight. There is a time and there is a place. This is not the time or the place to act like a fool and then it becomes a "he said, he said" situation. Now if you want to fight everyone in that situation that is your choice. I think you do not need to "lower yourself" to that level because you are confronted by a coach. At the very least, I would just keep walking and tell the coach "You need to get out of my way." But yelling and screaming back is not going to do much of anything. You still have another half to go.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What were they supposed to do, fight him?

I would have hoped that I let the coach just talk himself out. What else can you say but "Can you let me into the room please?"

Peace

You could immedately turn around and walk back out onto the court. If he choses to follow and continue, it will be visible to everyone.

Last thing I'd do is stand there and listen.

[Ignats75]

Cameron,

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Except I would go to the table and make sure that the book had 2 Ts registered in the book for the coach.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

In my mind, this is a 1 Flagrant T Situation. Granted, giving him 2 costs him an additional 2 shots, but why bother.

To sum up what a lot of other people have said: Grow some nads and whack him, at least once. Do the paperwork required. Enjoy a more peaceful 2nd half.

Profanity on the court in a high school is an Automatic T From me whether it's directed at someone, or of you're just pissed off at yourself for missing a layup. It has no place in a high school game. The one exception I may make is if someone loses a kneecap or something and goes down writhing in pain, but even that is going to be given a quick hard look.

[deecee]

this was worse -- this was a chew out at halftime outside the officials locker room