Throw in

[Old School]

Also remember that once the white team grabs the ball, it is too late for the red team to call timeout. The red team must call the timeout before the opposition or white team, or team just scored on, gets control of the ball. If you do grant the timeout, endbound priviledges remain.

[deecee]

also bill one more caveat -- should red commit a foul before the throw in is complete and the resulting spot throw in is still the endline -- white can STILL run the endline....

BTW -- OS -- I agree with your above post good job

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by deecee

also bill one more caveat -- should red commit a foul before the throw in is complete and the resulting spot throw in is still the endline -- white can STILL run the endline....

BTW -- OS -- I agree with your above post good job

Can I get a rule number for this?? I have a co-worker wanting to know where the rule is......I swear I cant find it!

[deecee]

i do not have my rule book here -- but look under the section regarding throw ins after a made basket.

[mick]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Can I get a rule number for this?? I have a co-worker wanting to know where the rule is......I swear I cant find it!

7.5.7 Sit C (d)

[wildcatter]

Okay, let's take this a little bit farther.

What are all the non-common-fouls can occur during the throw-in? (so violations and technicals, but not personal fouls like a push/hold)

Team A has the throw-in (player A1 throwing it in), Team B is defending (player B1 defending the throw-in).

1) A1 does not throw the ball in within 5 seconds
2) A1 steps over the line when throwing the ball in.
3) A1 leaves the designated spot during the throw-in (not a traveling, right?).
4) B1 breaks the plane of the OOB line. (Violation? T?)

What else?

[deecee]

#3 -- only applies for spot throw ins not for throw ins following a made basket

[wildcatter]

Originally Posted by deecee

#3 -- only applies for spot throw ins not for throw ins following a made basket

Right - sorry, let's assume it is a spot throw-in.

[mick]

Originally Posted by deecee

#3 -- only applies for spot throw ins not for throw ins following a made basket

Oops !
The in-thrower may violate by leaving the endline spot.

• From the endline extended he takes a step up the sideline.
• From the endline he takes a step onto the bleachers.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

Okay, let's take this a little bit farther.

What are all the non-common-fouls can occur during the throw-in? (so violations and technicals, but not personal fouls like a push/hold)

Team A has the throw-in (player A1 throwing it in), Team B is defending (player B1 defending the throw-in).

1) A1 does not throw the ball in within 5 seconds
2) A1 steps over the line when throwing the ball in.
3) A1 leaves the designated spot during the throw-in (not a traveling, right?).
4) B1 breaks the plane of the OOB line. (Violation? T?)

What else?

I know this might seem kinda picky, but I just want to point out that #1, #2 and #3 are violations, not fouls. If A violates during the throw-in, they do lose the arrow (if it's an AP throw-in), and they lose the endline (obviously). If A fouls, they lose the endline privilege, again obviously, but they don't lose the arrow. For that reason, it's importnat to distinguish between fouls and violations, rather than lumping violations under fouls. For an over-arching word, use "infractions".

[mick]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

For an over-arching word, use "infractions".

So, yer sayin' it's illegal to put a foot in one's mouth ?

[wildcatter]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I know this might seem kinda picky, but I just want to point out that #1, #2 and #3 are violations, not fouls. If A violates during the throw-in, they do lose the arrow (if it's an AP throw-in), and they lose the endline (obviously). If A fouls, they lose the endline privilege, again obviously, but they don't lose the arrow. For that reason, it's importnat to distinguish between fouls and violations, rather than lumping violations under fouls. For an over-arching word, use "infractions".

Oops again, very good catch - I meant to include violations when wording it, but couldn't think of a word that would exclude personal fouls - Thanks! Infractions work quite well.

That being said... what other infractions?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

1) A1 does not throw the ball in within 5 seconds
2) A1 steps over the line when throwing the ball in.
3) A1 leaves the designated spot during the throw-in (not a traveling, right?).
4) B1 breaks the plane of the OOB line. (Violation? T?)

What else?

Off the top of my head:
1. The thrower steps over the OOB line and touches Inbounds territory.
2. anyone catches the throwin pass while standing OOB on any of the four lines.
3. The thrower releases the ball for a throwin pass and then proceeds to touch it before anyone else.
4. The thrower hands the ball to a teammate.

There's a few more in rule 9-2.

[Four-Oh]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

Okay, let's take this a little bit farther.

What are all the non-common-fouls can occur during the throw-in? (so violations and technicals, but not personal fouls like a push/hold)

Team A has the throw-in (player A1 throwing it in), Team B is defending (player B1 defending the throw-in).

1) A1 does not throw the ball in within 5 seconds
2) A1 steps over the line when throwing the ball in.
3) A1 leaves the designated spot during the throw-in (not a traveling, right?).
4) B1 breaks the plane of the OOB line. (Violation? T?)

What else?

Hi, everyone! First time here in the basketball forum (been shot down once in the Baseball forum already, but that's my rookie sport!*)
Anyway, here goes...

4, above is a delay-of-game warning for the first offence, then a team technical foul after any warning for delay (9-2-11, penalties 1 and 2, 10-1-10).

Here are a couple more:

1) B1 contacts the ball on the OOB side of the line: technical foul (9-2-11, penalty 3, 10-3-11), charged directly to the player.

2) B1 fouls A1 on the OOB side of the line: intentional personal foul (9-2-11, penalty 4)

And, I suppose, the garden-variety T for unsporting conduct!

As suggested in another post, lots more under 9-2!

Just a question, along with this, does anyone try to call the delay of game before either of my 1 or 2, above, happen? You'd have to be pretty quick with the whistle, I guess!
Andrew

*: which I picked up so that I could spend our all-too-brief summer outside in the sun, rather than in a (usually non-A/C) gym!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Old School

Also remember that once the white team grabs the ball, it is too late for the red team to call timeout. The red team must call the timeout before the opposition or white team, or team just scored on, gets control of the ball. If you do grant the timeout, endbound priviledges remain.

WRONG! Wrong again.

Originally Posted by deecee

also bill one more caveat -- should red commit a foul before the throw in is complete and the resulting spot throw in is still the endline -- white can STILL run the endline....

BTW -- OS -- I agree with your above post good job

deecee, NEVER agree with anything that OS writes. It will only make you look bad when he is proven to be incorrect. As is the case here. Not only does he not have an NFHS Rules Book, but he is too lazy to read what's currently posted on the NFHS website.
http://www.nfhs.org/web/2006/10/2006..._rules_in.aspx

2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 9: With less than one minute to play in the fourth quarter, Team A scores a field goal to tie the game. B1, standing under the basket after the score, secures the ball and begins heading to the end line for the ensuing throw-in. A1 requests and is granted a time-out. RULING: Legal procedure. Team A may request and be granted a time-out until the ensuing throw-in begins. The throw-in does not begin until B1 has the ball at his/her disposal and the official has begun the five-second count.