The Jump Stop

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I had looked at 4-45-2 ... was just curious to see what people say and how they call this. I see perfectly executed jump stops after a player was dribbling and stop their dribble while coming to a jump stop. Often I see an official call a violation.

3 out of 4 times it's not performed correctly. That's my take.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

3 out of 4 times it's not performed correctly. That's my take.

Interesting, three out four times I see the officials call this incorrectly. Especially officials at the lower levels. Guess that's why they are there.

[Adam]

There's two standard jump stops within the rule book definition.
1. Ball gathered with both feet in the air, one foot down and jump once to land on both feet. Legal, but neither foot may be put back down once lifted before passing, shooting, or calling a timeout. This is more typical with a drive to the basket.
2. Ball gathered with one foot on the floor, jump and land on both feet. Legal with the same restrictions as above. I see this more often with jump shooters on the perimeter (especially around the three point line) and used to call it traveling. Man I was wrong.

[Scrapper1]

Just last night, this came up after my girls' game. One of the girls for the home team performed several jump stops during the game. I happened to be the trail official (2-whistle) for most if not all of them. She would dribble from the 3-point line and then drive to the FT circle, jump and land around (or just inside) the FT line. She would then take a nice 14-foot jump shot.

Each time she did this, I found myself thinking, "Wow, nice jump stop! Landed exactly on 2 feet and everything." Usually, I see the player land "thump-thump", espeically in boys' games.

Anyway, after the game, we're in the locker room and a retired official, who taught me more than I can say, comes in and asks us about it. The opinion of the gathered refs in the stands was that the move was a travel. So he just wanted to talk to us about the jump stop in general.

We talked about exactly what rainmaker was saying. You not only have to see the feet, but you have to see exactly when the dribble ended (in the air or on the floor). I still think they were good jump stops. It was obvious that she's practiced the move to get it just the way she wanted it. But I wouldn't mind seeing the tape for my own improvement on the call.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Each time she did this, I found myself thinking, "Wow, nice jump stop! Landed exactly on 2 feet and everything." Usually, I see the player land "thump-thump", espeically in boys' games.

... and if there is a thump-thump, what?

If the dribble is ended while both feet are in the air, how can those officials say to you they though this was a violation?

Obviously these are the types of plays you have to see...just interesting to hear everyone's point of views here.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

... and if there is a thump-thump, what?

Johnny, in one type of jump stop, you're allowed to land on one foot, then jump off that foot and land on two feet simultaneously. In that case, if the player lands "thump-thump", you have a traveling violation.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Johnny, in one type of jump stop, you're allowed to land on one foot, then jump off that foot and land on two feet simultaneously. In that case, if the player lands "thump-thump", you have a traveling violation.

Maybe I am crazy, but who lands on one foot with the other in the air and then jumps off that one foot and lands on both feet. I am not sure I have ever seen that.

And if a player ends a dribble in the air - both feet off the ground - and lands thump-thump and (a) continues to try for a shot or pass or (b) stays stationary and pivots with the first foot to hit ground or (c) pivots with second foot to hit the ground.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

There's two standard jump stops within the rule book definition.
1. Ball gathered with both feet in the air, one foot down and jump once to land on both feet. Legal, but neither foot may be put back down once lifted before passing, shooting, or calling a timeout. This is more typical with a drive to the basket.
2. Ball gathered with one foot on the floor, jump and land on both feet. Legal with the same restrictions as above. I see this more often with jump shooters on the perimeter (especially around the three point line) and used to call it traveling. Man I was wrong.

In the common vernacular, a "jump stop" is also gathering the ball while in the air and landing on both feet. In this case, either foot can be the pivot foot.

The problem comes when someone hears "you can pivot after a jump stop" (meaning my example right above), and applies that to "you can pivot after *all* jump stops" (meaning Snaqwells' definitions 1 and 2).