Foul while shot is in air

[pinchmaster]

Had this one Saturday.A1 shot for goal is in air, A2 shoves hard underneath for rebound.Partner calls foul A2. Ball goes in. Possession the other way. Does basket count? What if B is in bonus sit.? Shots or no. He says no team control and no player control because ball was in air.
Shots if in bonus. comments?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by pinchmaster

Had this one Saturday.A1 shot for goal is in air, A2 shoves hard underneath for rebound.Partner calls foul A2. Ball goes in. Possession the other way. Does basket count? What if B is in bonus sit.? Shots or no. He says no team control and no player control because ball was in air.
Shots if in bonus. comments?

If the shot is in the air when the push happens, the basket counts. If B is in the bonus, they will shoot because there is no team control during a shot.

[Jurassic Referee]

If B is not in the bonus, they will get an unrestricted end-line throw-in.

[johnSandlin]

Had this exact kind of play this past week in one of my games. A1's shot is in the air. During the shot, had a double personal foul on two guys vying for position on the rebound. Shot attempt was good.

Counted the basket. Went to the AP arrow at the POI.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by johnSandlin

Had this exact kind of play this past week in one of my games. A1's shot is in the air. During the shot, had a double personal foul on two guys vying for position on the rebound. Shot attempt was good.

Counted the basket. Went to the AP arrow at the POI.

If you counted the basket, then the POI is a unrestricted end-line throw-in for Team B

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

If you counted the basket, then the POI is a unrestricted end-line throw-in for Team B

Agree. Case book play 4.19.8SitC is close enough.

[jmaellis]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the shot is in the air when the push happens, the basket counts. If B is in the bonus, they will shoot because there is no team control during a shot.

Does the shot count because the player who committed the foul was not the shooter?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jmaellis

Does the shot count because the player who committed the foul was not the shooter?

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first...

...unless... (think airborne shooter).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

...unless... (think airborne shooter).

Good catch.

Whatinthehell do you expect though at 4:52am? Perfection?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first.

It's already been alluded to, but the only time you kill a shot that's in the air before a foul or violation or horn is when there is a player control foul that occurs before the ball goes through the hoop.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's already been alluded to, but the only time you kill a shot that's in the air before a foul or violation or horn is when there is a player control foul that occurs before the ball goes through the hoop.

How about if the offense swings their elbows excessively? (That gets a because I'm trying to get a "shut up" from Jurassic, and it also gets a because of how dumb the rule is.)

[jmaellis]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's already been alluded to, but the only time you kill a shot that's in the air before a foul or violation or horn is when there is a player control foul that occurs before the ball goes through the hoop.

Since someone mentioned the airborne shooter, I want to be sure I understand when to kill a shot.

I understand that an airborne shooter who fouls an opponent has committed a player control foul (I think the common example is A1 who jumps, releases the ball and then crashes into B1 on the way back to the floor, with B1 having had legal guarding position); and the shot is not counted if it goes in.

Is there any difference in the way the situation is handled if the foul committed by A1 occurs after she returns to the floor? For instance, upon returning to the floor after releasing a shot, A1 grabs B1 jersey when she sees B1 heading toward the basket to position herself for the rebound. Since A1 was no longer an airborne shooter when the foul was committed, would we count the basket if it goes in, report the foul against A1, and if Team B is in the bonus they would shoot 1 or 2? If the ball doesn't go in then report the foul against A1 and Team B gets a throw in and can run the baseline?