Foul while shot is in air

[pinchmaster]

Had this one Saturday.A1 shot for goal is in air, A2 shoves hard underneath for rebound.Partner calls foul A2. Ball goes in. Possession the other way. Does basket count? What if B is in bonus sit.? Shots or no. He says no team control and no player control because ball was in air.
Shots if in bonus. comments?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by pinchmaster

Had this one Saturday.A1 shot for goal is in air, A2 shoves hard underneath for rebound.Partner calls foul A2. Ball goes in. Possession the other way. Does basket count? What if B is in bonus sit.? Shots or no. He says no team control and no player control because ball was in air.
Shots if in bonus. comments?

If the shot is in the air when the push happens, the basket counts. If B is in the bonus, they will shoot because there is no team control during a shot.

[Jurassic Referee]

If B is not in the bonus, they will get an unrestricted end-line throw-in.

[johnSandlin]

Had this exact kind of play this past week in one of my games. A1's shot is in the air. During the shot, had a double personal foul on two guys vying for position on the rebound. Shot attempt was good.

Counted the basket. Went to the AP arrow at the POI.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by johnSandlin

Had this exact kind of play this past week in one of my games. A1's shot is in the air. During the shot, had a double personal foul on two guys vying for position on the rebound. Shot attempt was good.

Counted the basket. Went to the AP arrow at the POI.

If you counted the basket, then the POI is a unrestricted end-line throw-in for Team B

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

If you counted the basket, then the POI is a unrestricted end-line throw-in for Team B

Agree. Case book play 4.19.8SitC is close enough.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Agree. Case book play 4.19.8SitC is close enough.

Agree. Case book play 4.19.8 Sit E is even closer!


*4.19.8 SITUATION E: A1 has control of the ball in Team A's frontcourt. Post players A5 and B5 are pushing each other in an attempt to gain a more advantageous position on the block while (a) A1 is dribbling the ball; (b) the ball is in the air on a pass from A1 to A2; or (c) the ball is in the air on an unsuccessful try for goal by A1. An official calls a double personal foul on A5 and B5. RULING: In (a) and (b), Team A had control of the ball when the double foul occurred, and thus play will be resumed at the point of interruption. Team A will have a designated spot throw-in nearest the location where the ball was located when the double foul occurred. In (c), no team has control while a try for goal is in flight, and since the try was unsuccessful, there is no obvious point of interruption. Play will be resumed with an alternating possession throw-in nearest the location where the ball was located when the double foul occurred. Had the try been successful, the point of interruption would have been a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line. (4-36; 6-4-3g; 7-5-9)

[jmaellis]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the shot is in the air when the push happens, the basket counts. If B is in the bonus, they will shoot because there is no team control during a shot.

Does the shot count because the player who committed the foul was not the shooter?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jmaellis

Does the shot count because the player who committed the foul was not the shooter?

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first...

...unless... (think airborne shooter).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

...unless... (think airborne shooter).

Good catch.

Whatinthehell do you expect though at 4:52am? Perfection?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Good catch.

Whatinthehell do you expect though at 4:52am? Perfection?

Hey, it's only 1:52 here. Now that's perfection!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The shot counts no matter who commits the foul(s) if the ball was in the air first.

It's already been alluded to, but the only time you kill a shot that's in the air before a foul or violation or horn is when there is a player control foul that occurs before the ball goes through the hoop.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's already been alluded to, but the only time you kill a shot that's in the air before a foul or violation or horn is when there is a player control foul that occurs before the ball goes through the hoop.

How about if the offense swings their elbows excessively? (That gets a because I'm trying to get a "shut up" from Jurassic, and it also gets a because of how dumb the rule is.)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

How about if the offense swings their elbows excessively? (That gets a because I'm trying to get a "shut up" from Jurassic, and it also gets a because of how dumb the rule is.)

Good catch, Scrappy.

I save the "shut ups" mainly for BoSox and Cubbies fans. And Dan_ref of course. You Ranger fans are kinda....what's the word.....inconsequential.