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Question Virginia vs. Clemson

Anybody see the travel on the Virginia Player when he lands on his back after getting the rebound near the end of the game?
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 04:53pm
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I was about 12 feet away from the play, and being a Clemson fan obviously thought it was a travel.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 04:57pm
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If the player went straight to his back from the air, I believe this is legal under NCAA rules. Travel in NFHS land, though.

Someone who is certain will come on here and comment, I'm sure. I'm just a HS official.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 05:27pm
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Is it traveling when a player (a) falls to the playing court while holding the ball; or (b) gains control of the ball while on the playing court and then, because of momentum, rolls or slides, after which the player passes or starts a dribble before getting to his or her feet? RULING: In (a), yes, because it is virtually impossible not to move the pivot foot when falling to the playing floor. In (b), no. The player may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a timeout. Once the player has the ball and is no longer sliding, he or she may not roll over. When flat on his or her back, the player may sit up without violating. When the player puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is the first to touch the ball, it also is traveling. When a player rises to his or her feet while holding the ball, it is traveling. When a player falls to one knee while holding the ball, it is traveling if the pivot foot moves.

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In (a), yes, because it is virtually impossible not to move the pivot foot when falling to the playing floor.
What pivot foot has a player in the air grabbing a rebound established before landing?
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What pivot foot has a player in the air grabbing a rebound established before landing?
He got the rebound, and then fell backward on his back. Both feet hit the floor first.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 06:11pm
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What pivot foot has a player in the air grabbing a rebound established before landing?
Regardless, in NFHS rules this (falling straight to the floor) is a travel. I know you know that, but I'm trying to be thorough. 4-44-5a.
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We are talking about NCAA Rules.....that call could have change the momentum of the game.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 06:19pm
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We are talking about NCAA Rules.....that call could have change the momentum of the game.
Yawn. And so could 6743 other things.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 06:21pm
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He got the rebound, and then fell backward on his back. Both feet hit the floor first.
But if his butt hit first, would it still have been traveling? If he lands flat on his back and the bottom of either feet never touch, is it traveling?

When did a pivot foot get established and moved in those cases?
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He got the rebound, and then fell backward on his back. Both feet hit the floor first.
Meaning it's a travel, NCAA or FED.
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Meaning it's a travel, NCAA or FED.
Right. It's a travel, as described.
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But if his butt hit first, would it still have been traveling? If he lands flat on his back and the bottom of either feet never touch, is it traveling?
In those two cases, forget about calling traveling. . . Call the trainer. Ouch!
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 06:36pm
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But if his butt hit first, would it still have been traveling? If he lands flat on his back and the bottom of either feet never touch, is it traveling?

When did a pivot foot get established and moved in those cases?
In a HS game, this is traveling. 4-44-5a.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 06:52pm
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In a HS game, this is traveling. 4-44-5a.
Quit trying to spoil my fun by being realistic.

I figgered in another post or two I coulda had Nevada agreeing with me.
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