Blarge--does it exist?

[tjones1]

Ahhh if I remember, I believe this is one of the first topics I posted on whenever I joined The Forum. As I recall, MTD Sr. and I agreed on this subject, but like Tom, I'm holding mine until I hear yours!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tjones1

but like Tom, I'm holding mine until I hear yours!

Why? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I certainly have mine, but that's just me and no one else. What I personally think should never be a factor in what anybody else thinks.

And I don't believe for a minute that anything I say will really have any affect on Tomegun's thinking either. He'll make up his own mind, never mind my view. And that's the way it should be.

[deecee]

I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by deecee

I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...

Now, see how simple that is?

In return for your gracious contraction, I promise that if we ever work together, and have a double whistle on a block/charge, I'll let your call stand 100%. How's that?

Actually, I don't mind you disagreeing about the blarge. I just don't like the name-calling.

[deecee]

fine i wont call you or anyone else here a blarge ever again

[iref4him]

There is no blarge. But we do it to ourselves as officials. Last week, I had a boys varsity game. I was the U1. The R for the pre-game talked about the blarge. He said if we have it, we will sell it and call it as a blarge. I said that if we have a blarge then it will either be a block or a charge. He said he had it in a game the other day. He said both coaches were mad, but that is just the way it is.

I said we are going to have a block or charge not a blarge. Guess what in the game we had this game situation. The ball was in my primary as C, I called the charge against the Visiting team. The T was going to call a block. I took the call. IT WAS CLEARLY A CHARGE. The visiting coach begged for a block and proceeded to say it was a "blarge". I told him not to go there. I saw the play and it was clearly a charge.

At half time the offical who was at the T wanted to know why we didn't call a blarge. I re-iterated that there is no blarge. I told him if the ball was in his primary I would have backed off and let him call the block. BUT REMAIN IN PRIMARY UNLESS YOU ARE 200% SURE YOUR PARTNER KICKED IT!!!

He said that he had been taught that a blarge was okay. I told him it was a bail out call. The R said that I should never say that. Sometimes you can't avoid the blarge. Then I told him that is why pre-game is so important!!!

These blarges and other things (e.g., coach's box, calling the travel before A1 creams B2 after A1 gains control of the ball and turns and hits B2) we call or don't call, we bring upon ourselves. When you have the officials calling it correctly, you look like the odd ball.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by iref4him

There is no blarge.

Are you saying that case book play 4.19.8SitC doesn't exist? Or that it should never be followed? Even if both officials have already made conflicting signals?

Please explain what you're getting at. I'm not quite sure.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by iref4him

There is no blarge. But we do it to ourselves as officials. Last week, I had a boys varsity game. I was the U1. The R for the pre-game talked about the blarge. He said if we have it, we will sell it and call it as a blarge. I said that if we have a blarge then it will either be a block or a charge. He said he had it in a game the other day. He said both coaches were mad, but that is just the way it is.

I said we are going to have a block or charge not a blarge. Guess what in the game we had this game situation. The ball was in my primary as C, I called the charge against the Visiting team. The T was going to call a block. I took the call. IT WAS CLEARLY A CHARGE. The visiting coach begged for a block and proceeded to say it was a "blarge". I told him not to go there. I saw the play and it was clearly a charge.

At half time the offical who was at the T wanted to know why we didn't call a blarge. I re-iterated that there is no blarge. I told him if the ball was in his primary I would have backed off and let him call the block. BUT REMAIN IN PRIMARY UNLESS YOU ARE 200% SURE YOUR PARTNER KICKED IT!!!

He said that he had been taught that a blarge was okay. I told him it was a bail out call. The R said that I should never say that. Sometimes you can't avoid the blarge. Then I told him that is why pre-game is so important!!!

These blarges and other things (e.g., coach's box, calling the travel before A1 creams B2 after A1 gains control of the ball and turns and hits B2) we call or don't call, we bring upon ourselves. When you have the officials calling it correctly, you look like the odd ball.

If this was an NFHS game, then I'm 100% sure that YOU kicked it.

On the play you describe, once the Trail signaled a block and you signaled a charge, you need to correctly apply the rules as written in 4.19.8SitC.
The visiting coach had every right to insist that a blocking foul was also reported on the play.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And the same official that stated all of the above just stated in another thread while trying to justify his reasoning to make a call--"Btw, the rulebook is there to be enforced..".

Enforced or selectively enforced?

I guess it just depends on the way that wind is blowing,eh?

I would respond, but its Friday and naaaaaa......forget it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And the same official that stated all of the above just stated in another thread while trying to justify his reasoning to make a call--"Btw, the rulebook is there to be enforced..".

Enforced or selectively enforced?

I guess it just depends on the way that wind is blowing,eh?

JR, you are confusing iref4him with IREF4U.

Unless, of course, you are saying that in your case that u and him are the same person. Which would mean that Jurassic thinks he is....wait, here it comes......God. It's true, it's true!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...

Do you two have an announcement you'd like to make?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Do you two have an announcement you'd like to make?

He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

Oh, oh....BS!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

You know, I have reached the same agreement with...wait for it... my wife.

I'm just sayin'.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You know, I have reached the same agreement with...wait for it... my wife.

I'm just sayin'.

Your wife works for the...wait for it... SEC?