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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:26pm
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i agree with him -- you cannot have a block and a charge --

let me predict JR's response

"The rule states XYZ -- therefore XYZ"

rain -- he was calling the blarge BS -- which it is
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:28pm
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Ahhh if I remember, I believe this is one of the first topics I posted on whenever I joined The Forum. As I recall, MTD Sr. and I agreed on this subject, but like Tom, I'm holding mine until I hear yours!
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:49pm
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but like Tom, I'm holding mine until I hear yours!
Why? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I certainly have mine, but that's just me and no one else. What I personally think should never be a factor in what anybody else thinks.

And I don't believe for a minute that anything I say will really have any affect on Tomegun's thinking either. He'll make up his own mind, never mind my view. And that's the way it should be.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:51pm
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I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:54pm
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I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...
Now, see how simple that is?

In return for your gracious contraction, I promise that if we ever work together, and have a double whistle on a block/charge, I'll let your call stand 100%. How's that?

Actually, I don't mind you disagreeing about the blarge. I just don't like the name-calling.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:57pm
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fine i wont call you or anyone else here a blarge ever again
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 06:36pm
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There is no blarge. But we do it to ourselves as officials. Last week, I had a boys varsity game. I was the U1. The R for the pre-game talked about the blarge. He said if we have it, we will sell it and call it as a blarge. I said that if we have a blarge then it will either be a block or a charge. He said he had it in a game the other day. He said both coaches were mad, but that is just the way it is.

I said we are going to have a block or charge not a blarge. Guess what in the game we had this game situation. The ball was in my primary as C, I called the charge against the Visiting team. The T was going to call a block. I took the call. IT WAS CLEARLY A CHARGE. The visiting coach begged for a block and proceeded to say it was a "blarge". I told him not to go there. I saw the play and it was clearly a charge.

At half time the offical who was at the T wanted to know why we didn't call a blarge. I re-iterated that there is no blarge. I told him if the ball was in his primary I would have backed off and let him call the block. BUT REMAIN IN PRIMARY UNLESS YOU ARE 200% SURE YOUR PARTNER KICKED IT!!!

He said that he had been taught that a blarge was okay. I told him it was a bail out call. The R said that I should never say that. Sometimes you can't avoid the blarge. Then I told him that is why pre-game is so important!!!

These blarges and other things (e.g., coach's box, calling the travel before A1 creams B2 after A1 gains control of the ball and turns and hits B2) we call or don't call, we bring upon ourselves. When you have the officials calling it correctly, you look like the odd ball.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 11:18pm
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I retract my earlier statement -- I now 100% agree with rain on all future and current threads...
Do you two have an announcement you'd like to make?
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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 12:30am
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Do you two have an announcement you'd like to make?
He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.
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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 12:55am
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He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.
Oh, oh....BS!

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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 01:39am
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He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.
You know, I have reached the same agreement with...wait for it... my wife.

I'm just sayin'.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:43pm
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rain -- he was calling the blarge BS -- which it is
What an insightful and informative comment. Your wisdom and personal maturity come from where, pray tell?

why can't you just agree with me all the time, like you agreed in another thread? )

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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:53pm
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I understand his views and believe that logically he has a point. However, once both officials signal, the proper rules must be followed. In that regard both Joe and Rich are totally wrong. What they advocate doing is directly contrary to this year's POE #5. It was written for people who have just those views.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 05:55pm
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Please note that is is about what you do after a blarge has occurred. Iow, after both officials have already made conflicting signals.

That's what a blarge is.
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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 08:39am
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I think this rule should be changed like in the NCAA-W League. If you have a so called blarge, come together and try and decided the call. Or, NO PRELIMS!!!!
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