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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 04:16pm
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So, when B1 reaches in and slaps A1's arm while A1 drives by him for a layup, are you going to call the slap and stop the layup?
Depends on the severity. If it is a slap that everyone and their brother can hear, then yep I call it and stop the layup. To me, the foul count, which is determining potential 1 and 1 or double bonus and for how much of the game a team has that benefit, has just as much effect (and maybe more) on the game as that layup.
If A1 bumps B1 from behind on a rebound but B1 gets the ball without being affected, are you going to call the push?
Again, depends on the severity. Slight bump, rebounder maintains control, then no. Hard bump, or where player is coming in out of control, but rebounder maintains control, then yep, I whistle that one.
Again, two good examples of where if you let all of this go as long as the offended player is 'not affected', is just giving a message to the defense that they might as well go for broke every play, instead of thinking twice on reaching, etc. Can't remember every calling more than 2 fouls on one player for a rebounding foul in one game. Usually after the first, and definitely after the second, they are very aware of the other players around them in a rebounding situation and make better decisions.
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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 04:27pm
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is just giving a message to the defense that they might as well go for broke every play
thats called hustle

what we are trying to explain is advantage/disadvantage -- 2 very key concepts in officiating
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 06:38pm
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Again, two good examples of where if you let all of this go as long as the offended player is 'not affected', is just giving a message to the defense that they might as well go for broke every play, instead of thinking twice on reaching, etc. Can't remember every calling more than 2 fouls on one player for a rebounding foul in one game. Usually after the first, and definitely after the second, they are very aware of the other players around them in a rebounding situation and make better decisions.
The fact is that the rules don't call it a foul without advantage or displacement of some sort. I'll ask the question this way, as it paraphrases your question to Mark.

When do you apply rule 4-27?
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Article 1: The mere fact that contact occurs does not constitute a foul....
Article 3: Similarly, contact which does not hinder the opponent from participating in normal defensive or offensive movements should be considered incidental.
It's not a foul without an illegal advantage, so you are unfairly penalizing A1 on this if you call him for a foul; and you are unfairly adding to Team A's foul count.
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