tech or not?

[tjones1]

Well, I've got a timeout request per 5-8-3 (visual request - granted he was making a "T" with his hands above his head). Thus, you granted it, and it was an excessive TO. Therefore, put the time back on the clock as you saw it whenever you blew the play dead. So, two shots for Team A and ball, opposite table at the division line for a throw in.

[kbilla]

but is "NO TIMEOUT" a visual request? he said the words "TIME OUT", but i can't be sure there isn't a "NO" in front of it..

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by kbilla

but is "NO TIMEOUT" a visual request? he said the words "TIME OUT", but i can't be sure there isn't a "NO" in front of it..

The visual request would be the hands in the shape of a T like a ref giving a technical foul. He also should be making eye contact with an official. Was he doing either or both of these?

[kbilla]

hard to tell eye contact as i am the trail and he is on the opposite bench..like i said he was looking in the direction of the action, screaming, but did not make the T signal with his hands, they were just up above his head..

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by kbilla

hard to tell eye contact as i am the trail and he is on the opposite bench..like i said he was looking in the direction of the action, screaming, but did not make the T signal with his hands, they were just up above his head..

Then I wouldn't have called it. If he complained that we didn't, I'd say, "You weren't shaping a T, you weren't making eye contact, and you didn't have any left."

[kbilla]

i think it just comes down to lack of communication. in every pregame from here on out i am going to suggest that the official who reports the final timeout for either team clearly indicate to both partners that they are out, which is something that a lot of guys do anyways, but not everyone..had i known that i would have ignored whatever the coach was doing....also make it clear to coaches in pre-game what they must do to have a timeout granted, either audible request or visual T, suggest they do both...under the circumstances, i am just glad we did not impact the game...