would you "t" a coach for saying...

[kmw]

I had this happen tonight in JV boys game. Home team player A1 dribbles in to lane on a fast break, opposite defender on lowblock comes over and stands somewhat under basket... A1 charges into him... I call the charge and then the home coach tells me that " a varsity official would not call that"... I respond that I will call that tonight since its a charge".... Here in KY there are separate rating systems and I am on the bubble on boys varsity side but full varsity on girls.... and he knows that.... I don't "t" him because I know he is working me... what does everyone think?

[Adam]

"A varsity player wouldn't have done that."

[Dan_ref]

A varsity coach wouldn't have said that.

[JRutledge]

I do not like to say I would T anyone for one comment. The comment is kind of personal, but I do not know I would be offended. I might have a comeback, but it would likely take a lot more than just this comment alone.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

"Really, coach? Which official do you mean? Tell me his name so I can report him for being incompetent."

[26 Year Gap]

If not calling a T is eating at you, I think you know the answer already.

[Ref Daddy]

Seem's you answered what I would want to assess .... you seem to know the coach and know he was "working you".

Personally I would say it is demeaning and my guard would be up - if not the ol' STOP sign.

[swvaref]

VB home team up by 7, other team foul, both teams in double bonus. We go to shoot freethrows, home team coach asks for a intentational foul, I told him the foul I called was a hand check since the visting was fouling to stop the clock. He ask me isnt that what the rule book says that if a player grabs isnt that intentational.I said coach the foul I called was not the foul that he wanted. He turned and told his assistance, "thats alright he's missed the entire game anyway ". Iasked him Coach would you care to repeat yourself". He did not say anything. Does this situation call for A Tech because I heard wht he said That was his 1st comment to me up that point that was negative he just question calls all night

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by kmw

the home coach tells me that " a varsity official would not call that"... I respond...

by blowing the whistle and forming the T sign with my hands. His comment was clearly disrespectful.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

by blowing the whistle and forming the T sign with my hands. His comment was clearly disrespectful.

I don't get it -- it wasn't a varsity game, was it?

That said, I'd probably just laugh and make sure the coach saw me laughing, but that's me.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by kmw

I call the charge and then the home coach tells me that " a varsity official would not call that"...

Last week, I did a D3 NCAA game and no-called a very marginal contact situation. It wasn't even a push, it was like a brush from behind. Immediately after the brush, the ballhandler traveled, which I called.

The coach wanted the foul, obviously, and said, "This is the big time, this ain't no high school game!"

I didn't respond at all. Same kind of comment as you got, kmw; kind of saying that the level of this game is beyond you or you're not ready for it. But since my assignor obviously thinks I am ready for it, the comment is not worth my time.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally Posted by kmw

I had this happen tonight in JV boys game. Home team player A1 dribbles in to lane on a fast break, opposite defender on lowblock comes over and stands somewhat under basket... A1 charges into him... I call the charge and then the home coach tells me that " a varsity official would not call that"... I respond that I will call that tonight since its a charge".... Here in KY there are separate rating systems and I am on the bubble on boys varsity side but full varsity on girls.... and he knows that.... I don't "t" him because I know he is working me... what does everyone think?

I know ther is NO imaginary circle under the basket but was this kid playing defense? I didn't see your play but oftentimes around here, a kid standing under the goal taking a crash is either a blocking foul or nothing depending on the severity.

On the other hand, you mentioned in another post that this coach pushes all the officials. If everyone would give him a tech when he earns them, (A) he's got some 'splainin to his AD. (B) the conference recognizes there's a problem. (C) your assignor will now move from backing you 100% to 110%.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

I know ther is NO imaginary circle under the basket but was this kid playing defense? I didn't see your play but oftentimes around here, a kid standing under the goal taking a crash is either a blocking foul or nothing depending on the severity.

Why? Isn't it the essence of defense for a player to take a position the other team want to pass through? He's attempting to force the shooter to pull up for a short jumper rather than a layup. This should either be a no call or a PC foul....NEVER a blocking foul.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

I know ther is NO imaginary circle under the basket but was this kid playing defense? I didn't see your play but oftentimes around here, a kid standing under the goal taking a crash is either a blocking foul or nothing depending on the severity.

The officials "around here" really need to read case book play 10.6.1SitC. They're wrong.

[kmw]

After reading all the posts and reading the case play (thanks juraissic ), it was clearly a charge. The defense came over and was planted prior to A1 leaving his feet and charging. I know that the coach was working my limits and seeing what was my response. Based on his comment, he knows it was the correct call, I think he was looking to see what kind of comeback comment I would have made. I personally like the "a varsity coach wouldn't ask that" and the "a varsity player wouldn't have done that". A varsity player would have stopped and taken the bunny shot...I stand by my comment of "its a charge and thats why I called it that way". As for rehashing this scenario, I am more peeved at myself for not having the quicker wit. The only other thought to add is that I am a woman officiating a mens game and before they will score me in the top 40 boys rank in my association, they need to know what will bother me. I am a varsity official whether it be boys or girls....