Wild ending -- video review -- MN-SDSU women

[bigdogrunnin]

No, it looks more like the "coach, please don't come any closer, because I think we are about to REALLY screw this up, and we don't want anyone within ear shot to hear us while we come up with a REALLY LAME excuse for not disallowing the goal and walking off the court," sign.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

No, it looks more like the "coach, please don't come any closer, because I think we are about to REALLY screw this up, and we don't want anyone within ear shot to hear us while we come up with a REALLY LAME excuse for not disallowing the goal and walking off the court," sign.

That's the double stop sign.

[buckrog64]

The crew didn't help themselves when he waved off the points and then looked again at the replay. You think they delayed their decision long enough for security to arrive and escort them off the court? Nah! What if she misses the shot but gets fouled on the play? The foul came after the horn/light?

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by buckrog64

The crew didn't help themselves when he waved off the points and then looked again at the replay. You think they delayed their decision long enough for security to arrive and escort them off the court? Nah! What if she misses the shot but gets fouled on the play? The foul came after the horn/light?

If she is fouled on the play before time expires then the player is awarded 2 free throws. If it's after time expires then it is ignored unless it is intentional or flagrant.

[tnroundballref]

I think this crew did not do a very good job at handling the replay. Letting a coach influence a decision after a ruling had been made looks really BAD.

[womens_hoops]

some more video is available here. This is from the TV telecast, not the scout cam, so you can see the clock and shot a little more clearly.

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S21263.html?cat=1

[Scrapper1]

Thanks for the new clip. Pretty easy to see from there that the ball was still in her hand at :00.0. Tough position for the refs. Looks like they went by the LED lights, instead of the clock above the backboard. So why weren't the lights sync'ed-up with the clock?

[womens_hoops]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

So why weren't the lights sync'ed-up with the clock?

I don't get that either. Apparently there is some lag time. The clock goes to 0.0, and it sends a signal to the horn and light, but sending that signal takes a split second.

In fact, that's why they changed the rule in 2004 to go by the clock rather than the light.

Originally Posted by NCAA

The rationale is that using the reading of 0.0 when it's visible on the monitor, which indicates that the game has ended, factors out the time lag that occurs when that reading sends an impulse that triggers the mechanisms in the light and the horn.

http://www.ncaasports.com/basketball/mens/story/7319659

[M&M Guy]

Which replays did the refs use on the floor? Did they access to the same view as the last clip? Or did they have some view that may not have shown the clock? I've always wondered what replays are actually available tableside in a situation like this, and who controls what is able to be viewed.

At least the MN coach said the right things in the article: "It wasn't so much a last-second play," said Borton. "It was the 16 turnovers in the first half, it was shooting 48 percent from the free-throw line. It was all those other things."

[OHBBREF]

It is the perception of the situation - even if you read what is being said here - that the final decision was influenced by the coach after they made their decision by reviewing the monitor.
I will presume they got the call right and that is important.
But in this case one official should have been moving the coach's away from the monitor - So that if they decide to step back and look at another angle - or review it again after talking to both coaches then it is their decision - not that of a coach pointing a the monitor saying "SEE SEE Your Wrong!". then going back and changing the call.