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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 12:33pm
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Was the hand on his side putting the offensive player at a disadvantage? If not wait for the play to finish and then judge if you need to put a whistle on it.

I think goodwill is right. Advantage/disadvantage. It doesn't always work out this way but if you can hold your whistle for just a second longer, if the basket goes, no advantage. If the shooter misses, you have a situation where the defensive player may have gained an advantage and caused the shooter to miss the shot. Call the foul and shoot the 2 shots. Either way, this is a judgement call that only you can make because you were the one that actually saw the play as it happened.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 01:25pm
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I had a situation last night in my game whereas A1 is driving to the board and B1 had his hand in the side of A1. I blew my whistle between the first and second step as he was attempting to lay up the ball. In my opinion and according to the rule:

SECTION 11 CONTINUOUS MOTION

ART. 2 . . . If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight.

I believe he was in the act of shooting, therefore I gave him the bucket and one free throw. Comments?
I reward a lot of "continous motion shooting fouls".
I look to see... Is the player is 'gathering/holding' the ball? If so, then continuous motion can apply. If the player is still dribbling, then no continous motion.
When I do allow continous motion on the foul, I get a lot of comments like "This isn't the NBA"
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 02:21pm
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IREFU2, may I make a suggestion? When I first moved up to varsity, a wily old veteran taught me this. You see the foul, you know the player is going to the basket.

HOLD YOUR WHISTLE until it's clear that the player is in the act of shooting.

There's no need to be in a hurry to whistle the foul, especially with a hand on the waist. Don't penalize the shooter before the shotto early and don't an awkward situation for yourself by whistling before it's a shooting foul that Ray Charles could see.

SLOW WHISTLE. The foul will still be there and it will then be clear that the shot is as well.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 10:48pm
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Think about what the rules say...

normal throwing movement, customary arm movement, being able to take a step....

They guy was drivining in on the layup and taken a step... what is he going to do?

He has three options at this point,
1) shoot it
2) pass it
3) travel

He did not travel and he did not pass it....

High school officials call way too many of these as non shooting (IMHO)
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 11:00pm
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Calling this a non-shooting foul rewards the defense for sloppy play. Hold the whistle for a second.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 11:44pm
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Calling this a non-shooting foul rewards the defense for sloppy play. Hold the whistle for a second.
A second? Shoot. Sometimes I don't blow the whistle until the fourth beer at the pub after the game!
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 11:59pm
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The beer helps wash down the whistle that you swallowed during the game?
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Old Fri Jan 12, 2007, 12:15am
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The beer helps wash down the whistle that you swallowed during the game?
I don't know. Maybe. Come Saturday morning, it's all a blur and a headache!
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