Missed FT Violation - FYI

[mick]

Originally Posted by Ref Daddy

Had a close G V last night and a strange thing caught our eye. 30 years experience on the crew we all missed this one. Sharing.

As ball presented to a free-throw shooter, she would set her "toe "outside the line and slowly drag it back behind the line, set up and shoot without violation - all with the ball in her hand. Happened twice and did not effect outcome of the game.

This is a violation per Rule 9 ART. 7 . . . The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the free-throw semicircle line.

We missed that this applies to preshot routines too.

When shooter gets the ball they should already be inside the semi-circle and stay there.

I could not ignore it above elementary levels.
I would find it "bothersome" and ask the player to stop doing that.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mick

I would find it "bothersome" and ask the player to stop doing that.

You are wise beyond your years.

You deserve better than the Lions.

[theboys]

The high school my son played for had a JV girl who would make a little practice shot immediately above her - to practice her form, I guess - before attempting the actual free throw. She got away with it for a couple of games. I was surprised it wasn't called earlier. Although she wasn't trying to trick anyone, it was definitely, for lack of a better term, "disconcerting".

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by theboys

The high school my son played for had a JV girl who would make a little practice shot immediately above her - to practice her form, I guess - before attempting the actual free throw. She got away with it for a couple of games. I was surprised it wasn't called earlier. Although she wasn't trying to trick anyone, it was definitely, for lack of a better term, "disconcerting".

I don't understand.... How was that a violation????

[CoachP]

Zooch- I guess that would depend on if she had the ball for the "practice"

[mick]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Zooch- I guess that would depend on if she had the ball for the "practice"

I dunno.
Is a trial "shot" that different from tossing the ball a foot or two with a backward spin before grabbing and shooting ? ...Or, for that matter, from merely bouncing the ball once or twice ?

...Hangin' with Zooch.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I don't understand.... How was that a violation????

Dunno...if she does it the same every time, it's legal imo.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Dunno...if she does it the same every time, it's legal imo.

???
So A1 steps up to the line, you flip her the ball, she takes a couple practice "Shots" straight up in the air, and we let that go?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoachP

???
So A1 steps up to the line, you flip her the ball, she takes a couple practice "Shots" straight up in the air, and we let that go?

As long as it's not a "fake," yes.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CoachP

???
So A1 steps up to the line, you flip her the ball, she takes a couple practice "Shots" straight up in the air, and we let that go?

If it's part of her normal routine and she's not getting any kind of advantage out of it, why wouldn't we?

There's no rule against it.