OT: Wow (BCS Championship)

[Camron Rust]

Except for the first 15 seconds, Florida owned every aspect of that game. Simply dominating.

Congrats to the Gators!

[tjones1]

I just got home from my game a few minutes ago. However, we got an update on our way home. Reading the title of this thread...I thought I missed a major, major come back!

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Except for the first 15 seconds, Florida owned every aspect of that game. Simply dominating.

Congrats to the Gators!

I gotta agree Cam - don't think it was what anyone expected.

And Jack did us proud! Being the crew chief for a national championship game is a once in a lifetime thing, and I'm glad he got the chance. Now that it's done, he can get back to focusing on really important things like HS basketball!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Reading the title of this thread...I thought I missed a major, major come back!

I know -- OT?!?!? OT?!?!? What were you smokin' Camron?

Oh, Off Topic! Gotcha...

[Nevadaref]

It appears that the Big Ten was not as good as people thought. Both Michigan and Ohio State got handled in their bowl games.

I say give the National Championship to Boise State. The precedent was set when BYU got it by being the only unbeaten, untied team with the same 13-0 record back in 1984.

[JRutledge]

Wait a minute. The SEC was 1-2 verse the Big Ten during bowl games. This game tonight was the only moment the SEC won a game against the Big Ten. Wisconsin beat Arkansas and a very average Penn State (not ranked and could not beat any of the top Big Ten teams this year) team beat Tennessee. A 17th ranked Tennessee team at that.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

The WAC went 3-1 with the only loss by 1 point.

People need to start changing their thinking. The so-called "power conferences" are disappearing with the NCAA reduction in D1 scholarships. The talent pool is getting spread out to more schools. The rise of the WAC in football and the Missouri Valley in basketball are good examples of this.

People need to stop assuming one team is better than another or that one conference is superior simply because of the name and tenure.
The #1 place that this unfair bias shows up is in preseason polls. Teams should have to play four or five games before they are eligible to be ranked.

[Camron Rust]

The particilar record of a conference in bowls doesn't mean a whole lot. For example, Tennessee had the 5th best record in the SEC...not one of their better teams. Hardly worthy of basing much on.

So what if the WAC goes 3-1....aside from Boise St, they didn't really accomplish much....their 2nd place team played the 6th team in the PAC which is usually only 2-3 strong (not exactly earth shattering). And their 3rd place team playing the 5th place Mountain West team...(a pretty weak conference).

Except for Boise St., the other WAC teams would be at/near the bottom if they competed in the big conferences....they wouldn't have enough wins to even go to a bowl game.

Also, does anyone have any delusion that Boise St. could have made a game against Florida? Maybe better than Ohio St. did...(never mind that the popular argument was that BSU should have been in the game rather than Florida). BSU's schedule wasn't half the schedule Fla. played. No way they'd have been undefeated if they played in the SEC or Big Ten.

[Nevadaref]

And no way George Mason makes it to the Final Four either, huh?

When given the chance these smaller programs continue to rise to the occasion despite the constant nay-sayers.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Wait a minute. The SEC was 1-2 verse the Big Ten during bowl games. This game tonight was the only moment the SEC won a game against the Big Ten. Wisconsin beat Arkansas and a very average Penn State (not ranked and could not beat any of the top Big Ten teams this year) team beat Tennessee. A 17th ranked Tennessee team at that.

Peace

Nevada's comment wasn't that the SEC was better than the Big 10 (although it was last night). His comment was that both Ohio State and Michigan got handled in their bowl games. This is a true statement.

[Jurassic Referee]

In the final AP poll, Boise State was ranked #5; in the final Coaches poll, Boise State was ranked #6.

This is a true statement too.

[Raymond]

USC
USC
USC

PAC-10 football is way underrated.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The WAC went 3-1 with the only loss by 1 point.

People need to start changing their thinking. The so-called "power conferences" are disappearing with the NCAA reduction in D1 scholarships. The talent pool is getting spread out to more schools. The rise of the WAC in football and the Missouri Valley in basketball are good examples of this.

People need to stop assuming one team is better than another or that one conference is superior simply because of the name and tenure.
The #1 place that this unfair bias shows up is in preseason polls. Teams should have to play four or five games before they are eligible to be ranked.

Amen, Brother! The WAC and MWC should be getting more respect than they currently are.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Except for Boise St., the other WAC teams would be at/near the bottom if they competed in the big conferences....they wouldn't have enough wins to even go to a bowl game.

This kind of thinking constantly baffles me. If Boise St. were part of one of the "big conferences," do you really think they'd remain exactly as they are today? Of course they wouldn't. They'd be able to recruit better players, because they're part of a "big conference." They'd be consistently playing better opponents, which would make them a better team, just like it does for teams in one of those "big conferences." The notion that teams from a non-big conference couldn't possibly compete in a big conference, especially if they were part of that conference, is complete codswallop. BYU was just one team to demonstrate that this year.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

So what if the WAC goes 3-1....aside from Boise St, they didn't really accomplish much....their 2nd place team played the 6th team in the PAC which is usually only 2-3 strong (not exactly earth shattering). And their 3rd place team playing the 5th place Mountain West team...(a pretty weak conference).

Ya see Camron, Nevada wants to point out these wins over "power conference" teams, so the WAC looks good. But he doesn't otherwise want them to be recognized as "power conferences" anymore. He likes using the term for his purposes.

Also, does anyone have any delusion that Boise St. could have made a game against Florida? Maybe better than Ohio St. did...

The problem is, we'll never know.